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I'm going to report a recent Disqus comment of mine here.
I don't expect to change anyone's mind, it's just my point of view on the whole thing.
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I think that retaining the form factor and overall look from year to year is a smart play by both Samsung and HTC.
I don't think that most people upgrade their phones every year. I do think that a lot of people either go to the store saying, "I liked my old one, I want a newer, better one just like this last phone that worked so long," or, "I hated xyz about my old phone, I want one like my friend has, it's better."
In those cases, the similar looks pay off, and make it easier.
For those wanting a looks reboot, there's no guarantee that what the makers would attempt will be acceptable. Look at what happened not long ago with HTC. Comments here and elsewhere were pretty consistent - stop changing cosmetics, make a better phone.
So a looks change could hit it out of the park or could backfire. Meanwhile fans from both sides (or pick your own brand favorite, my point still stands) will attack the other side and complain that only their side is being attacked. Just like in sports, and frankly, I don't see much difference on that.
As for listening to us and building the perfect phone, that's never going to happen, in my opinion.
They already know how. If they do it, they'd never have reason to change - and would leave us right back to here and now.
Anyway, that's what I think.
I don't expect to change anyone's mind, it's just my point of view on the whole thing.
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I think that retaining the form factor and overall look from year to year is a smart play by both Samsung and HTC.
I don't think that most people upgrade their phones every year. I do think that a lot of people either go to the store saying, "I liked my old one, I want a newer, better one just like this last phone that worked so long," or, "I hated xyz about my old phone, I want one like my friend has, it's better."
In those cases, the similar looks pay off, and make it easier.
For those wanting a looks reboot, there's no guarantee that what the makers would attempt will be acceptable. Look at what happened not long ago with HTC. Comments here and elsewhere were pretty consistent - stop changing cosmetics, make a better phone.
So a looks change could hit it out of the park or could backfire. Meanwhile fans from both sides (or pick your own brand favorite, my point still stands) will attack the other side and complain that only their side is being attacked. Just like in sports, and frankly, I don't see much difference on that.
As for listening to us and building the perfect phone, that's never going to happen, in my opinion.
They already know how. If they do it, they'd never have reason to change - and would leave us right back to here and now.
Anyway, that's what I think.
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A whole of M7s were sold after the M8 came out based on that same thing.
Recently, new in box M7s in a nice blue were being sold out of Best Buy warehouse stock for $200.
Price drives sales for a whole lot of people and quality never goes out of style.
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Up close it looks worse, especially with that gold color. I can totally see your point. If it's not a snap on that just looks terrible.
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I completely agree that most people who upgrade just want a newer, improved version of the same phone and not a complete design rehaul. HTC has a good design, and by keeping the design they improve on the recognizability of their brand.
However, I do think they could/should make some improvements such as less space devoted to the speaker grills and the black bar (although they may not have much choice there). I don't think changing to a square camera cutout and moving the power button are enough changes after 2 years of the same design.
Sure, keep the overall design element, but make enough external changes to make the upgrade look worth it. It's a hard line to toe, and HTC missed it this year.
Edit: Also, what the heck. HTC can expand their midrange lineup to increase revenue, but they can't enlarge their current flagship to make a phablet version? There's no logic behind it.
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HTC bottom line is to sell a great product and to profit. I believe in 3 years they were only able to successfully turn a profit last year. As a company who was on the brink of bankruptcy, you cannot give people the same flavor of ice cream 3 years in a row. Hence the backlash and phone sales will diminish. HTC can't afford to get it wrong.
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At some point, someone said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Later, Todd Rundgren said in the Zen Archer that justifiability is in the hands of the beholder and you just don't know what people will do next.
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I think you took far too many Phandroid and other unwashed blog articles about HTC nearly going under way, way, way too seriously.
They were absolutely black and growing fast until the Apple customs embargo of 2012 - the press had a field day, declared them unprofitable when they were, and then the buying panic took over and drove them straight down.
The entire, long episode had ZERO to do with quality or buyer preference or design complaints.
So - yeah, out a long history beginning with the first Android ever, they had two bad years brought on by Apple.
For patent infringement. For things that Samsung and Google phones still do and that your PC has done since before the Apple attack.
Don't believe everything you read, just only most of my stuff.
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I wasn't implying their previous designs or phones over the past couple of years had anything to do with the company not being profitable. I was just saying they weren't in a great spot until last year, but this phone (M9) doesn't help them turn the corner if that was their goal. HTC is not going to increase their market share, profitability, or surpass the competition with orange sherbet ice cream three years in a row. Doesn't eating the same flavor day in and out get kind of old? I think that's how most of us are feeling right now.I think you took far too many Phandroid and other unwashed blog articles about HTC nearly going under way, way, way too seriously.
They were absolutely black and growing fast until the Apple customs embargo of 2012 - the press had a field day, declared them unprofitable when they were, and then the buying panic took over and drove them straight down.
The entire, long episode had ZERO to do with quality or buyer preference or design complaints.
So - yeah, out a long history beginning with the first Android ever, they had two bad years brought on by Apple.
For patent infringement. For things that Samsung and Google phones still do and that your PC has done since before the Apple attack.
Don't believe everything you read, just only most of my stuff.
We are all rooting for them to beat out Apple and Samsung. I do not see them doing that with the M9. I thought after the M7 they were one home run away from being at the top of the Android pinnacle. They just digressed immensely with the M9.
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Fair enough - but the rapid fan blogosphere would bitch if HTC were hung with a new rope.
Personally, I think that a lot of them hated Android when they owned iPhones and hate HTC now that they own Samsungs and Nexii.
Then add in the massive Samsung astroturfing we have to put up with shaping the viral thoughts.
Probably an inflammatory and inappropriate comment on my part.
It's still what I believe.
Personally, I think that a lot of them hated Android when they owned iPhones and hate HTC now that they own Samsungs and Nexii.
Then add in the massive Samsung astroturfing we have to put up with shaping the viral thoughts.
Probably an inflammatory and inappropriate comment on my part.
It's still what I believe.
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I upgraded to the M8 last year. Only thing I didn't care for was the color of the phone. Better battery than my M7 and I don't take a lot of pictures. So I didn't care about the camera. Until I started using the camera to take pictures this year then I learned trying to zoom in on a picture was bad. I could see why people hated the camera. I don't need a bigger battery because quick charge 2.0 works like a charm. I just thought the phone needs a new face so it can grab the Samsung crowd because I think a lot of them are on the fence with Touchwiz. Sense runs very smooth in comparison from what I hear.
After I received my upgrade to lollipop I was kind of disappointed too. Thanks HTC for getting the upgrades out quickly. Thanks to Sprint as well. But we were all hoping for a fresh start for our phones and for HTC. I feel bad for them if this is their new flagship. Someone summed it up nicely. The M9 is the amount of love they should have put into the M8 and what the M8 should have been.....
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If a max version is available,I may consider in April,when I'm JUMP eligible & no immediate out-of-pocket expense/down payment to switch.
Otherwise,I can't justify the expense,as my last four phones have been non-HTC & rooted,including my current phone,the NOTE4 & installed BLINKFEED on each,just not enough new to pull the trigger.
Was oohing & aahing the FLEX2,but,LG has waited too long to release & the thrill has passed.
As for Samsung's S6,I'm guessing there's more of the same,not interested.
W/that said,come this time tomorrow,all bets are off & disregard everything stated above.......
Otherwise,I can't justify the expense,as my last four phones have been non-HTC & rooted,including my current phone,the NOTE4 & installed BLINKFEED on each,just not enough new to pull the trigger.
Was oohing & aahing the FLEX2,but,LG has waited too long to release & the thrill has passed.
As for Samsung's S6,I'm guessing there's more of the same,not interested.
W/that said,come this time tomorrow,all bets are off & disregard everything stated above.......
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Let's all admit that we like it when people ask, "Wow, what kind of phone is that?" Happened with my Moto360 and I love hearing it with a new phone. If you get the M9 people will ask you,"Isn't that the same phone you had from last year? I thought you upgrade every year. Why did you buy the exact same phone?...LOL
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Truthfully,I don't give 'em a chance to ask.
The kid in me takes front stage & I shove it in their face whether they're interested or not.
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LMAO. Someone asked me the other day if my Moto360 was an Apple watch. I was flabbergasted. I do tend to show off my phones as well. Especially if the individual is an Android junkie like myself.Truthfully,I don't give 'em a chance to ask.
The kid in me takes front stage & I shove it in their face whether they're interested or not.
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Once upon a time,MOTO supposedly was superior to all.
Whether there was anything concrete to actually back that up,I can't say.
However,just my 2 cents here, & based off of actually owning/using roughly a dozen phones in the last 12-15 months,including OPPO/OnePlus/SAMSUNG/LG/MOTOROLA/HTC & even APPLE,I can honestly state thery're all the same,or,very close to it.
IMHO,you'd be hard-pressed to find a phone that actually underwhelms in the reception/call quality department.
As for quality,ditto,everyone has stepped-up their game,the quality is there,it all comes down to personal preference,for whatever reason.
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No, damn it, let's not all admit that.
I'm getting sick and tired of the constant inferences that if only it were explained well enough, myself and people like me would agree with you and others like you.
I don't. I never will. It is an absolute, complete and total impossibility for me to ever be like that in the past, present, or future.
I've been fair. I've said repeatedly to those like you, with great sincerity, that if that's what floats your boat, great - but I am not like that.
Having received no reciprocity from you on this, now I'm going to be as clear as possible.
Go ahead and believe that everyone is just like you, deep down inside.
You're dead freaking wrong, but you go right ahead.
I have no intention of reading or responding to any more about how it has to be pretty enough.
It's a phone.
Not a conversation piece.
Not a status symbol.
Not something that validates me or my lifestyle or my fashion or my income or my anything else.
A phone.
Mine have been absolutely fabulous, with the exception of a defective one that I wasted no time in swapping out for a working one right after buying.
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Forgive me if this has been posted previously,but,here's a video from the same source:
Looks just as odd here as in the pic.
We'll see tomorrow..........
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Removed video,I see this was posted previously.
http://androidforums.com/threads/prerelease-rumors-here.896604/page-9#post-6897704
THX EM!
I think I'll just sit on my hands 'til tomorrow...............
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I was watching TV this evening and was channel surfing. I don't watch soccer, but flipped past a match that had ads for tomorrow's reveal event. It caught me by surprise. I hunted down a photo on the net
I'm now remembering the special edition UEFA M8 and their special on field fan HTC representative Ultra Pixel photographer from a while ago.
I'm now remembering the special edition UEFA M8 and their special on field fan HTC representative Ultra Pixel photographer from a while ago.
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