What do you dislike about the Turbo 2

The Verizon logo that is etched into the apparently replaceable plastic shield.

The lack of a price break when converting from a Turbo to a Turbo 2.

Price.

... Thom

Well, the $200 trade in makes the price a little easier to handle, but I agree that it is pricey compared with other phones.

I don't care whether the logo is there or not, but I think it's hilarious that it's the old Verizon logo. I can't believe that Verizon's marketing department is happy that a brand new phone is coming out with the old logo AND IT'S A REPLACEABLE PART - they could have made some with the proper logo in time to get them updated. (No company changes their logo on a whim - this had to have been planned for a while.)

I don't like the size. The Droid Maxx is the biggest I want my phone to be. A few mm more in length or width would be ok, but this phone is much bigger than I want it to be.

I don't trust Motorola and Verizon at this point to keep the phone updated aggressively. Hopefully they will surprise us this time. (I want my phone to get both version upgrades but, more importantly, security patches quickly.)

Way too much bloatware. I wouldn't mind so much if the games and non-Verizon apps were uninstallable.

Those were the things I don't like. Without actually owning the phone, these are the things I like. As always, I like the close to stock Android build, with the smart custom Moto features like Moto Display and Moto Voice. The shatterproof display is a great idea - I could use the phone without a case. I like the design refresh idea. Battery is more than big enough. The camera is top-notch. I like on screen button, finally. I'm glad that they finally dropped Kevlar backs. Wireless charging - as it turns out, I have both Powermat and Qi chargers. I like the flat back - I like to put my phone down face up sometimes, so flat back is better to me.

I think that this will be a good phone for two years, easily.

doogald said:

Well, the $200 trade in makes the price a little easier to handle, but I agree that it is pricey compared with other phones.

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Seems reasonable until you ask some questions.

The trade-in does not apply to a Turbo still on a two-year contract. That would require paying $400 to pay it off and you would then get $200 for a trade-in. It is not clear what the status of the contract would be. One Verizon person I talked to said the contract would be cancelled and the phone number would be no longer assigned to me.

For Turbo users on a two-year contract the only option is to purchase at full price. (There is a financing option available at 0% directly from Motorola apparently.)

.... Thom

Whatstreet said:

As you may know I have the Maxx and it has not been upgraded to L.

This is making the phone obsolete in two years.

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But - is it really? Unless you need Android Auto, what exactly are you missing by staying on KitKat on the Maxx right now? Are there any other apps or any functionality that exists for L but doesn't for K?

I think the Maxx was a tock and maybe the Turbo 2 is also.

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Well, I'm not sure I agree with that. I think that every phone update that comes out a year after yours is rarely a big upgrade, but after two years, the second update is huge. Like you, I had a Maxx, and I thought that the Turbo was not worth the cost to me of paying out of my contract, etc. However, I imagine the same is true for anybody who has a Turbo now. Meanwhile, the Turbo was a great update if you had a Razr Maxx HD, and the Turbo 2 is a great update if you have a Maxx now.

Thom said:

Seems reasonable until you ask some questions.

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Right, but I can only evaluate based on the list price. $720 for a 64 GB phone, when you can get a phone as great as the Nexus 6p for $549? That's too big a difference; the Turbo 2 is pricey, and I don't think that the shatterproof display or the bigger battery (we still don't know real world battery life comparisons) is worth the extra cost. With a $200 trade in? That's closer. (Presumably a Nexus 6p buyer could resell a used phone on the secondary market, maybe not for $200, though.)

Whatstreet said:

As you may know I have the Maxx and it has not been upgraded to L.

This is making the phone obsolete in two years. Still, I appreciate them withholding L if it would not run on the phone anyway. L is 64 bit and I suspect it's to much for the 32 bit Crate. So my conclusion is that I wish Motorola could update the Maxx, it really might not be a good idea and that's just they way it worked out. I think the Maxx was a tock and maybe the Turbo 2 is also.

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Lollipop runs just fine on the Moto X 2013, which has the exact same SoC as the Maxx. There's no reason to think it wouldn't run on the Maxx just as well. In fact it was on the list to get the update, according to Moto's web page. Then the Lenovo sale went through and everything changed. I no longer trust them to stand behind their phones. I sold my Maxx and bought a Nexus 6, which is now running Marshmallow while the Turbo 2 and Maxx 2 are releasing with 5.1. Maybe they'll eventually get it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I just ordered a 64gb version last week with leather. One thought on paying the extra roughly $100 is in 1 or 1.5 years I can sell it on eBay as a new custom dt2 phone and order the free remake with the intention of getting more for it and possibly buying something better. It is funny that many people have mentioned the maxx. I too have the maxx and I constantly evaluate the new phone offerings and I really don't feel that their has been a new intro that would be a worthy replacement to the maxx. In fact although the turbo is def better it may not be worth the upgrade. I just got itchy for a new device. I only see the 6p as a close competitor to the dt2 but one of my main requirements is that I can get through the day on one charge and unfortunately many phones are not capable of one day of usage. I think the dt2 would have better battery life then the 6p and I'm not sure that the drastic screen size increase would be comfortable in my pocket. One last thought on the OS skin. I may be wrong cause I tend to not download and try out tons of apps and I like to try to stick with the phone stock aps. The android calendar doesn't continue to display notifications while the Motorola droid calendar displays the notifications until you clear them. I tried using the android calendar but because the notifications cleared themselves, I missed paying some bills.
After ordering, I noticed many of the reviews have been bashing the phone. Some of the complaints I see are:
Droid has been overdone and is just a line to be sold to verizon walk-in customers who don't know anything about phones.
Too much bloatware
Too expensive.
While they may have a small point, the benefits seem to really outweigh the negatives.
Any thought on the free refresh and resale?

mark959022 said:

Any thought on the free refresh and resale?

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You can't resell the original phone because you have to return it to Moto or you're on the hook for $500 plus tax. LOL! Also note that the "refresh" phone may be a refurb:

"To redeem the design refresh code, visit Motomaker.com and refresh your DROID Turbo 2 by Motorola; enter the code and a valid credit card number at checkout. Your credit card will be charged $499 plus tax for the design refresh, but a credit will be issued if you return your eligible original phone within 10 days of receiving your design refresh. In order for your original phone to be eligible for the design refresh, it must be in good working condition and not have any physical damage such as a crushed or damaged housing, liquid damage, software or hardware alterations or any other damage not covered by the Motorola limited warranty. The design refresh phone may be a like new/refurbished phone...."

Sounds to me like they're basically just swapping them around.

Source:
http://www.motorola.com/us/droid-tu...sign-refresh/droid-turbo2-design-refresh.html

The one thing the redesign does do ...

You find out how the new owner would like it customized and you get it customized that way for them at no added cost to either of you.

... Thom

I am aware the original gets sent back. Motorola was clear on that during the check out process. I intend to sell the refresh phone. Maybe it will be a refurbished phone but if it is I think it may be hard to tell. I suppose we will find out eventually.

Thom said:

The one thing the redesign does do ...

You find out how the new owner would like it customized and you get it customized that way for them at no added cost to either of you.

... Thom

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Except for the extra $100 charge, which is surely an added cost.

No sd slot. I've got a lot of media I like to keep with me.

Somniferum said:

Except for the extra $100 charge, which is surely an added cost.

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The makeover is only available in the 64GB. $100 was the increased cost for the increased 32GB in the Turbo also.

dontpanicbobby said:

No sd slot. I've got a lot of media I like to keep with me.

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After the Maxx and the Turbo with no SD slot ... the Turbo 2 is back with it. It is at the top (combined SD and SIM carrier).

... Thom

Thom said:

The makeover is only available in the 64GB. $100 was the increased cost for the increased 32GB in the Turbo also.
... Thom

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Thanks for clarifying. That makes a bit more sense now.

Still not too sure about the idea of selling the re-designed phone, especially since it's going to be a refurb. Between that and it having year-old specs by that point (and probably an outdated OS version, given Moto's track record), I can't see getting much $$ for it.

I've had my turbo 2 for 2 days. The screen scratches super easy. Get a protector as soon as you get it. Within 4 hours of having it, it has fairly deep scratches. The battery life isn't nearly what it was advertised as. I don't know what they consider moderate use but I don't think I use my phone heavily and I could get maybe 24hrs.

Ive had my turbo 2 since launch day. Phone is great, quick, screen is fantastic, camera as well. But there is no doubt that the screen does scratch fairly easy. As far as battery goes, its good, not other worldly. I get about 24-30 hrs of very moderate use. Maybe around 3 or 3 1/2 SOT. The software, while lollipop, seems to work great and smooth. Its refreshing to have some almost stock software (coming from an LG G3). Overall I'm impressed, I didn't think I would like this phone this much, but I do. Then again I do have a Nexus 6p on order, so in a week or two one of these puppies is going to Swappa.

Moxymo69 said:

Ive had my turbo 2 since launch day. Phone is great, quick, screen is fantastic, camera as well. But there is no doubt that the screen does scratch fairly easy. As far as battery goes, its good, not other worldly. I get about 24-30 hrs of very moderate use. Maybe around 3 or 3 1/2 SOT. The software, while lollipop, seems to work great and smooth. Its refreshing to have some almost stock software (coming from an LG G3). Overall I'm impressed, I didn't think I would like this phone this much, but I do. Then again I do have a Nexus 6p on order, so in a week or two one of these puppies is going to Swappa.

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Would love to know your thoughts on both since I'm a current Turbo 1 owner debating a jump to the Turbo 2 or 6P.

ckeegan said:

Would love to know your thoughts on both since I'm a current Turbo 1 owner debating a jump to the Turbo 2 or 6P.

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I was in this same boat until I actually compared the sizes. Coming from my Maxx, the Turbo 2 is considerably bigger- possibly even a little bigger than I'd like. I loved the 6P on paper, but physically it looks like another step beyond even the Turbo 2 in size.
I suppose if I see a 6P in real life, I could always order one and send my Turbo 2 off to Swappa or something, but for now I've put my order for a Turbo 2 in and should have it sometime next week!

Yeah, the 6P is about 3/8" longer, the same width, a little thinner. Both phones are too big for me, at least that's my preference. I'm hoping that going forward there will continue to be great phones at roughly the Droid Maxx size. When I bought the Maxx, it was really bigger than I wanted (I would have loved a Droid Maxx that was the size of the original Moto X with a large battery), and I hoped going forward that it would be the largest phone I'd ever buy.

Somniferum said:

Still not too sure about the idea of selling the re-designed phone, especially since it's going to be a refurb.

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Getting it used and designed their way might make some buyers drool.

... Thom

doogald said:

Yeah, the 6P is about 3/8" longer, the same width, a little thinner. Both phones are too big for me, at least that's my preference. I'm hoping that going forward there will continue to be great phones at roughly the Droid Maxx size. When I bought the Maxx, it was really bigger than I wanted (I would have loved a Droid Maxx that was the size of the original Moto X with a large battery), and I hoped going forward that it would be the largest phone I'd ever buy.

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My wife and father both have original Turbos, and despite being bigger than the Maxx, it really doesn't feel any bigger in hand. In fact, I didn't even notice that it was bigger until I put one side-by-side with my Maxx.
However, when I was test driving in the Turbo 2 in the store, one of the first things that jumped out at me was that it felt considerably bigger than either the Maxx or Turbo 1. However, it didn't necessarily feel too big, just bigger. But I think I'm getting close to that invisible "too big" line. I don't have a distinct number or anything, but I suspect it would take a mighty phone to get me to switch to something that's even bigger than the T2, whether it be now or in 2 years.

I have already messed up the screen on my phone. Dropped it in the truck and I guess it landed on the seat track just right and killed an 1/8" square of pixels.