Any fully functioning 3rd party camera app for S7?

On the S6, Camera FV5 worked really great. That was android 5. Android 6 seems to break a lot of stuff e.g. access to SD card (some apps can do it, some don't; I don't know why).

Interesting info about the Pro mode shortcut! Yes that really works. Many thanks for that.

However the button double-click still launches the default camera mode.

"Oversharpening and oversaturated processing are system wide. So no matter what apps you use to take picture, it will be oversharpening and oversaturated like stock app or even worse(unless you shoot raw with that apps ofc)."

I think this is what the camera API delivers and the camera app has no choice over it.

I have just tried another app, Camera Pro (Mr Mayer's), whose default mode delivers exactly the same photo as the S7 stock app. And if I de-sharpen and de-saturate using its controls, I get what I would call corrupted images, with nasty jpeg artefacts. And this is exactly what happens with Camera FV5!

But then all these camera apps are no more than just control panels for the camera API. These apps don't actually process the image, pixel by pixel. One of the developers told me this; he said it would be too slow otherwise for peoples' expectations. IOW, all the image adjustments are done by the OS. The camera app just provides the buttons

So I think Samsung either have a bug in the API (so these extra controls, namely the unsharp mask level, don't actually work) or they have changed the API so the apps no longer issue the right parameters.

Camera Pro was outstanding on the Nokia 808 which still totally beats the S6, S7, any Iphone... I got rid of it only because the browser options were all useless for some websites I needed to use. It's a pity that after all this time, 4 years, a £550 phone still doesn't come anywhere near the 808.

But I think an app which does RAW and reduces it to around 10MP (like Camera Pro did on the 808) would deliver a much more natural result than the stock S7 app. I have seen the RAW images and with suitable photoshopping they come out good. The stock app stores the RAWs into an obscure location in internal memory, but a 3rd party app which implements RAW and the downsampling could then write the finished one to the SD card.

My RAW option has suddenly became greyed-out... lots of hits on google but no solution.

Amazing how almost nobody participates on these (countless) phone forums

Yes - the RAW option is greyed out even though I am in Pro mode.

Also I notice that video stabilisation is greyed out (and disabled) in Pro mode. It becomes usable in Auto mode, at the same video setting. There is some strange dependence here...

Yes I have tried just about all apps from the app shop.

Camera FV5 state on their app shop description that Samsung crippled 3rd party apps, by limiting the image resolution available to them.

That might well explain it.

There has to be a good reason why 3rd party camera apps suddenly dried up when the S7 came out.

Massively over-saturated pics, with totally obviously unreal colours

If a DSLR produced pics like that it would be severely damaged.

The fact that most phone camera users like oversaturated colours doesn't make things right objectively.

Also the phone applies lots of unsharp mask sharpening to every pic. There doesn't seem to be a way to stop this. This is simply wrong; one should use unsharp mask (or any other sharpening) only at the final resolution e.g. when sized to the finished pixel size for a website, etc. One should never do sharpening on the original image because it trashes the picture when one is trying to extract a cropped section from it.

One can get around this by using RAW and doing a fair bit of photoshopping on it, but the stock app disregards the image file destination setting and writes RAWs to internal storage, not to the SD card. The only way around this is to root the phone and use e.g. APPS2SD and its Folder Mount feature to transparently move each file to the SD card (I have that working great on a T705 4.4.2 tablet, but haven't rooted my S7 yet due to the possible bricking issue.

The S6 produced better photos than the S7, except in low light where the S7 is very good.

What a lot of fanbois you lot are