Data rate for HD video

Macnerd · Oct 26, 2016

I have a G3 & the contract has expired. I want to get a V20 & take video. I know that the data used depends on the resolution. Do you know approximately how many megabytes or gigabytes are need for a 1 minute video on a V20? The answer will depend on how big an SD card I'll need to buy.

kate · Oct 26, 2016

Hi Macnerd, I moved your thread to the LG V20 forum

Hopefully someone with a V20 can test a 1 minute video. :thumbsupdroid:

Macnerd · Oct 26, 2016

kate said:
Hi Macnerd, I moved your thread to the LG V20 forum

Hopefully someone with a V20 can test a 1 minute video.

Thank you.

Napalm · Oct 26, 2016

The data rate varies based on what you are videoing. IE color compression - resolution variance, amount of motion and the speed. etc.

so there are some sites that spit a rough order value. like this one
https://www.digitalrebellion.com/webapps/videocalc

or this one.

http://www.stardot.com/bandwidth-and-storage-calculator

This is what led me to buy a 64gb. ALso just to help you save a tick of money - do not buy the latest in highspeed microSD cards. I think it's labeled something like XCII or something. basically there are levels to what the chips store and record - so you want something that shows as U3 on the card.

but there is now a new bandwidth connection standard - IE number of pins, amount of carry thoughput, sort of like how usb 3 is different from usb 2.

no mobile built today has the extra pins to take advantage of the new standard. I bought a San Disk Extreme plus 64gb for mine. I wanted solid random read speeds to go with the high speed sequential.

Macnerd · Oct 26, 2016

so there are some sites that spit a rough order value. like this one
https://www.digitalrebellion.com/webapps/videocalc

or this one.

http://www.stardot.com/bandwidth-and-storage-calculator

Whoa! That's a lot of choices!

Don't cell phones use H.264 codec?

I've seen only UHS-1 on the Verizon website.

MicroSDHC is up to 32 Gb & MicroSDXC is over 32 GB according to Wikipedia.

Napalm · Oct 26, 2016

so check both the H264 and the MPEG versions. TLDR version - with MPEG and solid quality you can be about 41GB per hour at 30 frames 5.1 sound. With H.264, 1080, 30 frames - 2.1 sound you could be around 12.2 per hour.

I figured 64 GB would be enough to hold a solid hour of super HQ video if I was to shoot that with the phone - hours of some basic video - which is probably how I'll use it.

but I also hold a lot of media on my devices - tunes, picture. that will live on the micro SD card - videos might well live on the phone for short term.

I might also invest in a 128 if I take more videos.

ALso yes SDXC is the storage capacity per chip rating. but if you look at very expenisve microSD cards you will find some with very very fast data ratings. 200 Mb/s or more - those are the new connection standard. Only some readers implement it. Picture the bottom of the card - and it has 2 rows of pins instead of just one.

we don't need that sort of speed thoughput.

Macnerd · Oct 27, 2016

I have an HDTV so I don't need to record video in 4K. Full HD should be fine. So, by recording in Full HD, I'd save space on the SD card.

Does the V20 support UHS Class 3? It probably doesn't because I see only UHS Class 1 SD cards on the Verizon website.

Napalm · Oct 27, 2016

Macnerd said:
I have an HDTV so I don't need to record video in 4K. Full HD should be fine. So, by recording in Full HD, I'd save space on the SD card.

Does the V20 support UHS Class 3? It probably doesn't because I see only UHS Class 1 SD cards on the Verizon website.

I've not done any extensive read/write tests but I have a Class 3 card and it's rather fast on access and read. faster than my older 32GB class 2 card that I had in it for just a day. might need to read the LG full manual and see.

I would expect it to be able to use the newer thoughput standards since it will record 4K video - which takes a lot of overhead. and it will record direct to memory card as far as I know.

verizon doesn't carry the latest of any accessory in their store. Example where is their Quick Charge 3.0 car and home charger devices - The V20, Pixel, and Moto Z are all QC3.0 capable.

despite my VZ corporate discount I found memory cards cheaper on the internet by a decent margin - amazon is where I got mine - but right now I get 10% cash back off my discover card too. OH get you a discover It card if you don't have one.

Macnerd · Nov 11, 2016

OK. Now I have related questions about microSD cards.

I haven't gotten the card yet. I haven't decided whether I want to format the card as internal or as external memory.

Questions about internal vs external memory -
I have a Mac with Android File Transfer installed.

Do you know if I can transfer files from internal memory on the V20 to the memory card formatted as external memory?

I have a HDTV. I've plugged my flash card with music on it into the TV & I was able to listen to the music. If I plug the phone with music on an internal memory folder into the TV, will the TV be able to play the music or must I format the card as external memory & plug the card into a USB adapter? If there are picture & video & music files on the card, will the TV be able to distinguish between them?

I intend to experiment with auto & manual settings for the camera as well as the video.

Napalm · Nov 11, 2016

If you are going to trade the card out of the phone - I highly recommend you stick with formating it as external memory and do not turn on the feature that merges the memory card with the internal.

Also don't turn on encryption unless you use some 3rd party encryption program. Why - once formated to merge with the internal - the card cannot be removed from the phone without wrecking the file system. IE phone won't work and possible that the memory card won't be readable.

with the phone plugged in often windows sees the memory card and the internal memory we 2 different drives. thus both accessible. I notice my car does similar.

Linux does the same but often the memory card doesn't show up first. SO I don't know what mac will do but I suspect it will work fine.

Likewise if you stick with the external formatting you can have multiple cards. which is my next plan - to use 2 different cards for different purposes.

Macnerd · Nov 11, 2016

I'm leaning more towards formatting the card as external storage. It's too bad that I can't partition the card so that part of it is for internal memory & part of it is for external memory! Is that even possible?

Napalm · Nov 14, 2016

Macnerd said:
I'm leaning more towards formatting the card as external storage. It's too bad that I can't partition the card so that part of it is for internal memory & part of it is for external memory! Is that even possible?

Not that I am aware of - and I have to ask why do you think you want to increase the internal memory? with the card as fully external you can push all your data over there and save gobs of internal memory space.

I have pretty much every app I want on the phone now - and still have 38+ gb left over. but my 64gb card is almost 1/2 full. I have most all of my data on that card. tunes - video's - all pictures - saves from some apps (like Acar etc).

Keep in mind 12 gb of that is spotify cached music that I listen to.

Macnerd · Nov 15, 2016

Napalm said:
Not that I am aware of - and I have to ask why do you think you want to increase the internal memory? with the card as fully external you can push all your data over there and save gobs of internal memory space.

I have pretty much every app I want on the phone now - and still have 38+ gb left over. but my 64gb card is almost 1/2 full. I have most all of my data on that card. tunes - video's - all pictures - saves from some apps (like Acar etc).

Keep in mind 12 gb of that is spotify cached music that I listen to.

About 16 Gb out of the 64 GB on my phone is taken up by Android & downloaded apps.

I'd rather format the card as external memory.

Do you know if the V20 has 2 rows of contacts or 1? Here's a picture I copied from Wikipedia:

I sent an e-mail to LG but I haven't received a reply yet.

Napalm · Nov 16, 2016

Macnerd said:
About 16 Gb out of the 64 GB on my phone is taken up by Android & downloaded apps.

I'd rather format the card as external memory.

Do you know if the V20 has 2 rows of contacts or 1? Here's a picture I copied from Wikipedia:

View attachment 111872

I sent an e-mail to LG but I haven't received a reply yet.

I couldn't see it easily and I assumed it didn't. which is why I bought the card I did and saved some dollars. that's exactly what I was trying to describe in the other post. nice pic.

Napalm · Nov 16, 2016

PS that's a new enough standard that there are very few readers out that support it - which sort of makes me think no mobile on the market today supports it.

since so few even support the memory card slot.

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