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No... I was talking about criticism for his handling of classified information... Surprised it didn't come across your radar, from professional interests if nothing else. I'll see if I can find you the links from one of your colleagues....

Might have to wait a couple of hours till I'm back home...

And that's different than hillary how? Honestly I haven't seen anything about that, aside from his using an older Android for personal use. To me that's a non-issue as long as it's not being used for official use. Hell, I use a Nexus 6, which is older, for personal use, and my .mil never touches it, so if President Trump is using it solely for personal use than it's really a non-issue. I'd be interested to read the links you find, assuming it's from a reliable source. However I'm interested in your explaining how it's any different from what hillary did.
 
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As if the obama White House wasn't obscene. At least President Trump is a true gentleman, unlike obama.

You must be joking! Trump has already done more good for this country than obama did in eight years.

WTF.....
I am just shaking my head trying to understand how .. this person can see something soo different than I.

Obama vs drumpf.... to very polar opposite...
and for someone to think drumpf is a gentalmen, good, and a great businessman,
i can only think 1 think that clouds the vision or colors the information coming in...
Obama has dark skin vs drumpf white (orange tinted white) skin
 
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did you say something about ... lies?
you got to be kidding me! your response is to focus on lies...?????
drumpf's lie counter has spun out of control!!!
LOL

Benghazi... is like the emails...
over blown.. with NO real evidence of wrong doing...
investigated many times ... reported on.. and explained...
Did you even see or read what happened to those men and our ambassador Chris Stevens?! [emoji49] Don't even lecture about lies when you hang on so dearly to Obama & Hillary. Pots & Kettles...[emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
 
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WTF.....
I am just shaking my head trying to understand how .. this person can see something soo different than I.

Obama vs drumpf.... to very polar opposite...
and for someone to think drumpf is a gentalmen, good, and a great businessman,
i can only think 1 think that clouds the vision or colors the information coming in...
Obama has dark skin vs drumpf white (orange tinted white) skin

Way to ignore the facts and call me a racist! It shows how intelligent you really are. Seriously the race card is overused, and obama was the biggest racist of all. I'm sure my half black half Sicialian fiance will get a kick out of you calling me a racist. And yes, I can see something different than you because I'm educated, unlike the majority of liberals. But way to call me a racist, that's what liberals do after all. When they don't have facts to back up what they say, they turn to calling the other person a racist.
 
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You've said enough that it's obvious.
If you could let me know what imaginary me thinks about it, that would be great... Then I could reply with imaginary you, and put words in your mouth.


Or we could actually listen to each other, you could say what you think, I could learn something about the new administration from your perspective, you could hear about mine....

We would both come away from the conversation having gained something.

If I've upset you at some point, let me know. I'm not afraid of an apology.


Let's let bygones be bygones... Draw a line in the sand... And have a really good conversation from this point on.

Are you up for it?
 
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i call BS on the 50/50 fiancee..

i admit that i have some liberal views..
I have a BS degree from a state university...
and i admit that i am a little racist. it is something i am working on, but cant help how i think.
But i can see that obama was a good man, and tried his best to do the right thing with what he has (information).
Even Hilary is human and did the best she can with.. the info she had.

drumpf.. he does NOT show any concern for others.. only does what will help him and his family / friends / business. i have NOT see any proof of his intelligence!
 
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i call BS on the 50/50 fiancee..

i admit that i have some liberal views..
I have a BS degree from a state university...
and i admit that i am a little racist. it is something i am working on, but cant help how i think.
But i can see that obama was a good man, and tried his best to do the right thing with what he has (information).
Even Hilary is human and did the best she can with.. the info she had.

drumpf.. he does NOT show any concern for others.. only does what will help him and his family / friends / business. i have NOT see any proof of his intelligence!

Her father's black and her mother's Sicilian, they met when the father was in the Navy and stationed at NAS Sigonella.
Funny, you admit you're racist but call me a racist for my dislike of obama! Now you're a hypocrite since I never said anything that could be construed as racist. I guess your "BS degree from a state university" isn't in common sense!
obama wasn't a good man, and he was a terrible POTUS. He completely destroyed the military. But I doubt you ever wore a uniform, so I doubt that you care.
hillary knew that Benghazi was in danger, and she denied Ambassador Stevens' request for security multiple times, so don't give me that. Also she refused to let Military assets, enroute from Croatia and Italy, enter the country after the attack started. It sounds like she didn't do the best she can with the info she had!
Again his name is President Trump so show him respect! You're a hypocrite because you jump all over people for disrespecting obama and hillary, yet you show President Trump no respect at all.
 
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WTF.....
I am just shaking my head trying to understand how .. this person can see something soo different than I.

Obama vs drumpf.... to very polar opposite...
and for someone to think drumpf is a gentalmen, good, and a great businessman,
i can only think 1 think that clouds the vision or colors the information coming in...
Obama has dark skin vs drumpf white (orange tinted white) skin

So I'm interested in how Trump's behaviour towards women in the past, and blatantly sexist behaviour can be reconciled with him being labelled as a 'gentleman'. I think of gentlemanly behaviour as being polite and courteous to people. The way I've heard him talk about women can hardly be thought of as gentlemanly. Here's the dictionary definition, if anyone was unclear on the meaning of the word:

gentlemanly
ˈdʒɛnt(ə)lmənli/
adjective
  1. chivalrous, courteous, or honourable.
    "his gentlemanly behaviour"
    synonyms: chivalrous, gallant, honourable, noble, courtly, courteous, civil, respectful, polite, well mannered, well bred, well behaved, attentive, gracious; More
    • befitting a gentleman.
      "a gentlemanly profession"
 
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I've gone back several pages and it's been a while since there was any substantive debate occuring on this topic. Allowing this to further devolve into a mudslinging game of he said she said is only going to lead to annoyed moderators and points for everyone. None of us want that. I'm shutting this thread down now.

***Don't carry the same arguments to any other new or existing thread. If you are unable to carry on a debate on the merits of a topic, stick to that topic, and do it without calling each other, or the other side's supporters derogatory names, those topics will be closed down as well and points will be issued.***
 
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