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No Nougat for 935U

MKeditor

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I bought my S7 Edge unlocked directly from the Samsung website so that I could not be tied to T-Mobile and receive up dates directly from Sammy. This has been a failure. Other models of the S7 Edge have received the Nougat update. Even AT&T has pushed it out. It makes zero sense that a carrier can provide an update before a manufacturer. I should have not spent the extra money ($900) for this phone.

Anyone else with a 935U experiencing this?
 
I don't have one, but I've found other similar reports on the web, and checking Sammobile.com for firmware I've found nothing for the 935U newer than 6.0.1 If I check the same source for the 935F (global unlocked version) there's something interesting though: they have released Nougat for that phone in many regions, but not the Americas (North or South). Don't know what to make of it, but the pattern caught my eye.

I agree that it makes no sense.
 
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I have Android 6.0.1, last security update showing in 'about phone' is October 1st and I haven't yet found where on my new phone it tells me I have Marshmallow or whatever. Not so with my Note 4, that did get Marshmallow, and told me as much in my settings but somehow the S7 Edge I just got this month didn't even respond to my search for that name, so frankly I'm not sure what I have on here - leading me to my dumb question of the day: shouldn't Marshmallow still look like Marshmallow no matter what Samsung device it's on? Would I not find things in basically the same order and place? I sure haven't so far. When I feel like bothering, I'll go pester Verizon on chat and they can tell me where to look. Will it be up to Samsung or Verizon if I ever get the Nougat update on this phone? I'm not pining for it, just curious.
 
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Android 6.0.1 IS Marshmallow, but if you want to check on your phone goto..... Settings, About Device, Software Info, then tap repeatedly on Android Version 6.0.1, a picture of what software version you have appears...
i think all samsung phones running the same android version should look pretty similar..!
Thank you! I didn't think of the 'tap repeatedly' at all! I never did manage to do that when I was trying to get into 'developer options' just to see what was in there, on my Note 4. Samsung said to tap 7 times and I did, but I probably didn't do it right, for nothing happened.

The Note 4 was my very first 'smartphone' and it has taken me some time to get the 'tapping' technique down properly anyway. I know that makes me look like a clod here but I'm a senior lady and it's too late to care. Those of us used to cutting wood, hauling water and slinging hay bales just to live, even women, might be a little heavy-handed at first for these subtle touches.:) I've learned to approach my phones like petting a sleeping cat that I don't want to wake up.

They 'should' look the same but truly, I'm not making this up: it looks different. I didn't just fire up this S7 Edge and go about my business as if I were still on my Note 4, nor I imagine, should I have expected to do; it's a newer device. If you have time for it, would you tell me something about Nougat that makes it attractive? I suspect I only want the 'latest shout' because it's there, and everybody else is getting it.

Thanks again for explaining the obvious to me. I don't suppose you'd be too surprised to know that one can search manufacturer and carrier websites and still never find such elementary information that should have been there for the beginners.
 
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Hi,
I cant really help in regards to the differences and improvements in Nougat as I'm still waiting myself to get the UK GS7 Edge update..!! However this link gives a good review.

Thank you! I'm still trying to find things on what's already in there, and missed a chance to record some video when I should have done today because I didn't know how to get to it in time, but I'll put a thread about that in case someone can help me. This will be a welcome distraction from my frustrations.
 
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I don't believe Verizon has updated its customers/victims to Nougat yet. They are most probably busy cramming in their customized crapware into their update.

There is an option under both marshmallow and nougat that allows you to set a double click on your home button to turn on your camera, even when the phone is locked.
If you go into your camera settings, you will find this option under the label "Quick launch". I hope that's what you were looking for. Using this feature you should never miss a video or picture.
Nougat has some pretty cool features, a more attractive format and greatly improved notifications. It also has expanded the functionality of Doze. It takes some playing with it to truly appreciate it.

PS. My hats off to you regarding the "cutting wood, hauling water and slinging hay bales " where the heck were you 45 years ago?
How nice of you to ask! 45 years ago, I was living in Mexico City, in the Zona Rosa, with my mother. We liked to periodically 'run away' together, just the two of us. My husband was from out in the sticks in northern AZ so that's where we spent most of our time together. When he passed away, I was too used to that to change it much, so I found a 'bugout' just as remote but about 2,000 ft. higher up. I had read 'The Coming Global Superstorm' by Whitley Streiber and Art Bell (of all people) and thought I'd be high enough up not to be submerged in that polar shift that's supposed to be coming.:)

Yes, that is what I was looking for! I'll try it now. I've been sick for a week and still am, couldn't even sit up long enough to come here; so are most people in the area from what a neighbor tells me. I don't know if it's a cold or flu, a little of both, maybe. I'm not the type that runs to the doctor, unless it's a broken bone. I've warned Neighbor to wear a mask because he teaches martial arts down at the high school and it's a regular petri dish this time of year.
I was trying to catch some dipshit up here staying at his parents' house who smacked a poor old dog in the face so I'd have some video to go with a deposition. I got the deputies after him anyway. I wasn't quite secluded enough here just to dump him in an arroyo, more's the pity.:)
 
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To bring this thread back on topic.....

I'm posting product reviews at Amazon, Best Buy, etc to tell unsuspecting suckers...like us...to NOT BUY the 935U. This will help people and possibly get noticed if the retailers can't move these models. If you going to bitch, bitch where it will do some good. .
Are you going to post a link for us, pretty please? Mean reviews are one of the most entertaining parts of online shopping and as you point out, very helpful to uninformed consumers.

May I ask a newbie question without enraging you? What is the difference between the 935U and the 935V and can we expect a difference in how they're treated when it comes to Nougat? I have the 936V and don't have it yet either. I asked Samsung about it and couldn't get an answer from them either; the guy on the 'chat' just said he didn't know.
 
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The 935V is the Verizon model, the 935 U is an unlocked US model. The idea was that the unlocked (and unsubidised) model would get updates faster, as carriers add an extra step to updates and so slow them down, but it doesn't seem to working that well.

So with VZW your updates are delayed while Verizon decide how much crapware they can add to the ROM, but that's the trade-off for not paying full prince for the handset. The OP was told that the benefit of paying more up front would be faster updates, but doesn't seem to be getting them.
 
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The 935V is the Verizon model, the 935 U is an unlocked US model. The idea was that the unlocked (and unsubidised) model would get updates faster, as carriers add an extra step to updates and so slow them down, but it doesn't seem to working that well.

So with VZW your updates are delayed while Verizon decide how much crapware they can add to the ROM, but that's the trade-off for not paying full prince for the handset. The OP was told that the benefit of paying more up front would be faster updates, but doesn't seem to be getting them.
Thank you! I didn't understand that my carrier was already showing in my model number! Verizon sells them, but they sure don't make them. As for crapware, I posted a thread yesterday asking about DT Ignite - but can't find it, lol.

You're right: I'm paying it off on Verizon but economy wasn't the only reason I did it that way: nobody but Verizon serves my area adequately so I'm not likely to switch any time soon. Then, because the Note 4 I got from them was my first smartphone, I didn't know a lot about them and knew I didn't know. I would be afraid to strike out on my own and buy a pig in a poke online, no matter how good a deal it looked. So, the buck still stops at Samsung with those updates, if even the 'unlocked' aren't getting them.
 
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Well the back certainly stops with Samsung for updates to the non, carrier models. For carrier models the carrier can't issue on update before Samsung give it to them, unless it is only Verizon bloatware that is being updated. But how long it takes after Samsung give it to them (e.g. how long they spend adding bloat & doing their own internal testing etc) is down to Verizon.

No, VZW don't build the phone, but they have a version made for them. For some phones that may be the same hardware but with network-specific firmware (either for compatibility or because the carrier requests that specific things are added, removed or locked), for others there are hardware differences due to VZW's particular mix of network technologies.
 
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Well the back certainly stops with Samsung for updates to the non, carrier models. For carrier models the carrier can't issue on update before Samsung give it to them, unless it is only Verizon bloatware that is being updated. But how long it takes after Samsung give it to them (e.g. how long they spend adding bloat & doing their own internal testing etc) is down to Verizon.

No, VZW don't build the phone, but they have a version made for them. For some phones that may be the same hardware but with network-specific firmware (either for compatibility or because the carrier requests that specific things are added, removed or locked), for others there are hardware differences due to VZW's particular mix of network technologies.
Uh oh... this just gets more complicated. How am I supposed to find out where an original operating system leaves off and my carrier's unique specifications begin? I'm a beginner. I want to learn about Android systems, no matter what device they're on. That knowledge will enable me to make the most informed decisions about what (and whose) device I choose when I pony up for the next one and to know the difference between a problem I might be able to fix, just by knowing how my OS works, and one the carrier has to fix for me, because, well...it's their fault.:)

Is this part of the reason that people are 'rooting' their devices? I still need to understand the 'why' better before I start learning how to do it. If I have a device at home on which I am not at the moment dependent for communication, I am not going to be able to resist trying it. It's part of being a 'prepper,' you see. It's not good enough merely to use devices, until you can't. I want to learn how things work so I can keep them running as long as possible and get the best performance I can from them. I was fascinated by a thread here about 'what to do with an old smartphone' but couldn't begin to comprehend it.

One last question: if your carrier has that much control over what's on your device, how would you sell it to somebody who might want to use a different carrier? Verizon is expensive! People living in areas that offer them a wider selection may not want it, and them being 'slow' when it comes to updates isn't helping.
 
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The OS and most of the ROM is Samsung ( the manufacturer always customises the base Android OS for their devices, often adding their own apps & services). Carrier modifications are mainly adding apps (their own or junk they wish to promote, often because they are paid to do so), though they may also remove services or options they don't want you to have. There may be technical differences, e.g. in the radio bands or technologies, but those are entirely handled by the manufacturer. And some carriers insist on the bootloader being more locked down than others, but again that will probably be done for the carrier rather than by them.

But this is all getting a bit off-topic for this thread.
 
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The OS and most of the ROM is Samsung ( the manufacturer always customises the base Android OS for their devices, often adding their own apps & services). Carrier modifications are mainly adding apps (their own or junk they wish to promote, often because they are paid to do so), though they may also remove services or options they don't want you to have. There may be technical differences, e.g. in the radio bands or technologies, but those are entirely handled by the manufacturer. And some carriers insist on the bootloader being more locked down than others, but again that will probably be done for the carrier rather than by them.

But this is all getting a bit off-topic for this thread.
Thank you for your patience in explaining all this to me. I am certain that other learners reading here will benefit too. One topic does tend to lead to others in my case, trying to fill so many gaps in understanding at once.:)
 
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