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Replaced my Moto X w/Pixel 2 XL

jikhead

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I finally gave up on my Moto X Pure Edition after a very frustrating 2nd year of usage. The first year was great and loved this phone. I still love the overall design, and wish Lenovo would revert back to what Motorola's business model was. Having attachments to your is catch-e, but it is very expensive. I'm not sure why anyone would buy a $700+ phone, and then buy multiple attachments at $150-300 a piece. I don't like this business approach. Back in January 2017 when my Moto X received the December 2016 security patch, it screwed up my bluetooth and was excruciatingly painful to have to constantly reboot my phone few times a day to fix the bluetooth radio not turning on. After dealing with it for several months, I finally caved in and reset my phone in April. That fixed the bluetooth issue, but then it immediately introduced a display problem: the bottom 3rd of the screen image is always distorted and messed. It has remained this way, and resets didn't fix it. It may have been software related but not sure; but on occasion it would go away for a few minutes. In September, my battery life started to degrade in performance and not hold a charge as long anymore & the phone would turn itself off around 20-30% many times. And to this day, I've still been waiting on the Nougat update.

So I have moved on as most of us due every couple of years. I'll miss my Moto X in many ways, but I likely won't come back to Motorola since I don't like the direction that Lenovo has taken the company.
 
Bought the X4 last month but still prefer the XPE. I have several that I have picked up over the past year. Recently put a new battery in one of them which helped out a lot but still not complete happy.
Looked at the new Pixel 2's, but have been drooling over OnePlus since the 3T but reluctant to leave Verizon.
Finally decided to order the 5T next week when it becomes available and will be switching to TMobile.
No confidence in Lenovorolla any more and refuse to go back to a Samsung.
 
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I am going to see how the FX30 replacement helps my phone, and if I have the same experience as you, I am following you into OnePlus territory head first. I have metro PCS so I think carrier issues for me are not a problem. Thanks for leading the way and being helpful to me.

I love phonearena, for comparison.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/c...to-Z-Force,OnePlus-5T/phones/9694,10101,10695

Damm. OnePlus 5T has 8 GB RAM, larger screen AND a 3300mAh battery.
The blew up the screen, and ramped up the ram! I wish Moto had done this.
Wow. I have officially turned geek. If my son saw this I'd never hear the end of it. Lol.
 
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Amen to that. I wrote the, a public opinion (As if they care) on the motorola website, after a company rep claimed that if the moto x series had done well they would have not needed to replace it. This was my response.

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Sirs:

(This will be my third and final try to post before I believe that a moderator or other person is deleting my posts because motorola-Lenovo do not like listening to informed consumers)

"Didn't sell well?"

That is strange, because unless I'm greatly mistaken, 2014, to 2015, the year, and for the duration that that model was released, Motorola experienced the greatest sales figures in recent years, up to 2015 (72.7482 million for a 5.1% market share) and figures have declined steadily since then with the recent pump due to the big push for the new phones.

I realize that Lenovo purchased Motorola from Google in 2014, and therefore much of the design of the Motorola Moto X pure edition, had nothing to do with Lenovo, however neither do they have much to do with Google, according to industry talk, (A video on this subject is available by looking up Marcus Brownlee's YouTube video, on the sale of Motorola to Lenovo) but these figures, (2014-2015 period, when84.029 million unites shipped for a 4.5% market share to a 72.7482 million and 5.1% market share) have not been present before or since.

This period is directly corelated to the period in which Motorola X Pure was on market and being promoted.


Ethos and functionality of design in the original Moto X series, reflected the changing tastes and technological awareness of users worldwide. These users prefer function over gimmick, and appreciate streamlined design in both construction and software. Finally phones with a low GB RAM profile (2-3GB) simply don't cut it.

I predict that sales of Motorola phones, despite the fact that they have flooded the market with numerous phones, that all amount to lateral changes, with no real solid improvements, for mid-level phones, will continue to decline, until an understanding of the elements that made 2014 your best-selling year are revisited.

Revisiting this design Ethos might look like the following:

- Minimum of 4 GB RAM
- 21 megapixel camera, with 2.0 aperture , and larger sensors, with better software, front and back
- A minimum of 75% screen-to-area ratio
- Dump that hideous bump on the back, it's the kind of thing I want to bring to a dermatologist. Dump the bump.
- Snapdragon Octa-core 2500 MHz minimum
- Keep Moto assist (moto voice commnd)
- Charge $499

This would essentially be a ramped up version of the Motorola Moto X pure, and not some splashy gimmick phone with lower specs and more snap-on Moto modded toys, which I predict will be obsolete within a year.
It doesn't even have to be exactly like the Motorola Moto X pure, but the guts in that phone was strong, the system worked great, it was a good size, and had great features. Whoever was running research and development on that project needs to be brought back, and Motorola might yet again experience a larger market share.
In fact I'll bet money on it. Making 20 different phones with 20 different gimmicks, is for kids.
I'll take one phone that has 20 different functions, and does them all well.

Thanks!

Biff.
 
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