90+ Hour Standard Battery Life Achieved

nyngbld · May 18, 2010

gavin77 said:
MisterMixelpix that is one nasty avatar and it freaks me out every time I see it....why do you have to scare a brother....

LOL i think that every time i see his posts...

MisterMixelpix · May 18, 2010

Ahahaha, that's why I love using it. It's memorable, and it helps people notice what I say.

cdodge · May 18, 2010

tluv00 said:
Wow. So I can get more battery life not using the phone for what I originally purchased it for? Who would have thunk it? This is ridiculous. The reason I bought the phone was for the GPS, connectivity, Text and to talk on it. Instead of us having to shut off needed features why not just give it a f***ing battery that lasts longer the 5 hours?

I get unlimeted gas mileage in my 09 Murano.

To bad i don't get to drive it anywhere though

i know that was probably mean to say but some people may need battery life over the smart phone features so if disabling items to get more battery life is what they need then i am happy for them. I refuse to disable the smart phone features to get more than 10 hours with little or no use.

gorenut · May 18, 2010

woop said:
I'd believe thatd be a placebo effect.

I'd have to agree. I think all the anti-Task Killer hype is getting almost as bad as the initial Task Killer frenzy. I have a task killer on my phone and I've found it really helpful just to quickly see what apps are currently running and kill the ones that might be hogging up stuff even when minimized. I have mine set to no auto-task killing and pretty much I only open the app itself when I want to check.. when I kill all the tasks, the task killer gets killed as well. I dunno how other people are using task killers to claim that they're totally draining the battery.

Oh yea.. first post, but been lurking for a while. Finally signed up when I decided I was going to get the Incredible. Had trouble getting the account going at first, but glad the admins finally got it working.

ChiTownJim · May 18, 2010

It's amazing that people think they should get days of use on one charge when they're playing games, using IM, phone, GPS, Navigation , Pandora etc...
My Netbook will last all day at work if I use for just office and email but if I start watching movies and playing games I won't make it to lunch.

My phone with normal use (usually 1 Navigation use, some 30min pandora/slacker, maybe 1hr of mp3 music, some pictures, phone calls, texts, sports tap and cragslist notifications etc.) I easily make it through the day if not by a charger at night I have enough juice the next day to get to a charger or pop in my spare battery. 20-30hrs of life is very normal

BUT if I'm using GPS for 4 hrs , pandora for 4hrs, streaming you tube etc... I'd be lucky to get 10-12hrs

Lefort1 · May 18, 2010

Maybe its just me buying think its funny saying your phone use doesn't mimic real world situations, despite having an open chat program, push email, 3g enabled, etc.

Blackberry owners will say they get amazing battery life, and they do! But what do BB owners use their phones with the majorty of the time? Push email and BB messenger (chat). Now add in the incredible beefier processor and smaller battery and don't tell me that's incredible.

Adamx · May 18, 2010

90 hours of standby is really low for a cell phone actually.

gijoe411 · May 18, 2010

Also, try using a dark background. I put on a bright yellow "beer mug" background and ended up with 6 hours of life. But when I switched to a dark brown background I get 17 hours off charger.

plim · May 18, 2010

ChiTownJim said:
My phone with normal use (usually 1 Navigation use, some 30min pandora/slacker, maybe 1hr of mp3 music, some pictures, phone calls, texts, sports tap and cragslist notifications etc.) I easily make it through the day if not by a charger at night I have enough juice the next day to get to a charger or pop in my spare battery. 20-30hrs of life is very normal

if i did that, my phone would die in 3-4 hours. i make 1-2 phone calls (less than 5 minutes), send 5-10 texts, spend < 30 minutes total browsing, no video streaming, no audio playback, and still, it doesn't last more than 14 hours. i'm lucky to get > 12.

tluv00 · May 18, 2010

I just keep my phone turned off until I want to use it as a GPS, phone or check email. I get crazy battery life and it makes me feel good to have 3-4 voicemails and 15-20 texts at a time. Who needs real time response and connectivity?

AaronBBrown · May 18, 2010

So, great...you got 90 hours off a charge without actually using the phone. Big whoop.

cdodge · May 18, 2010

plim said:
if i did that, my phone would die in 3-4 hours. i make 1-2 phone calls (less than 5 minutes), send 5-10 texts, spend < 30 minutes total browsing, no video streaming, no audio playback, and still, it doesn't last more than 14 hours. i'm lucky to get > 12.

Im in the same boat as you.

drtrmiller · May 19, 2010

Google's Larry Page says there's 'something wrong' if your Android phone's battery doesn't last all day -- Engadget

There it is. I'm not saying that everyone should get 90 hours of usage. Stop being ignoramuses and read the whole post; the purpose was to explain how running a single application can affect battery life, with all other things being equal.

As Google CEO Eric Schmidt and I agree, much of the blame being given to the Android platform or handset OEM's is the direct result of poor 3rd party application writing--more specifically apps that are "not particularly smart about" using the transmit/receive function that I described in the first post:

Application Set A, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 14 hours standby
Application Set B, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 24 hours standby
Application Set C, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 90 hours standby

Scientific proof that software applications, not usage patterns, are responsible for many battery life qualms.

secretLOVER · May 19, 2010

I plan on charging my phone to use it the way I want to use it. Wait, I'm not planning to, I'm expecting to.

cdodge · May 19, 2010

drtrmiller said:
Google's Larry Page says there's 'something wrong' if your Android phone's battery doesn't last all day -- Engadget

There it is. I'm not saying that everyone should get 90 hours of usage. Stop being ignoramuses and read the whole post; the purpose was to explain how running a single application can affect battery life, with all other things being equal.

As Google CEO Eric Schmidt and I agree, much of the blame being given to the Android platform or handset OEM's is the direct result of poor 3rd party application writing--more specifically apps that are "not particularly smart about" using the transmit/receive function that I described in the first post:

Application Set A, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 14 hours standby
Application Set B, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 24 hours standby
Application Set C, Usage Pattern 1 (4 trials): 90 hours standby

Scientific proof that software applications, not usage patterns, are responsible for many battery life qualms.

I am not sure how many people doubted you that you got 90+ hours but I think what most of them are saying is that they bought the smart phone to be a smart phone and use it the way it is intended to be used. I am not willing do disable everything to get 90+ hours. If i can just make it from morning to night with light usage I would be happy.

kibble · May 19, 2010

It seems to me that many people who complain about the battery life may not have a long history of owning smart/pda phones. I remember my first "dumb" phone I got lasted a whole week on a charge! and that was with constant txting. The phone I got after that was a winmo phone, I went from a phone that lasted all week on a charge to one that lasted maybe 2 days max. Was I disappointed? Yes, but I knew that with more processing power, bigger/color display, and all the stuff my new phone could do, it was a trade off, plus I would constantly overclock it to be able to run things smoothly. Now that these android phones can do so much and with a battery as small as the one included with the DInc, it's no surprise that battery life is as low as it is.

Every phone I've gotten, the trend is towards everything being smaller, and that includes the battery. You can't exactly expect battery life to increase just because it's a newer phone.

I make sure I always have a car charger with me just in case of emergencies (like having to watch a youtube video my friend sent me a link to).

I just think people should learn to accept that if they want their phone to do all this and more, not to expect a gratuitously insane amount of battery life, that is, of course, assuming everything is working right and not something in the background sucking your battery dry.

With setting the phone the way I want it and running the services I use, I've managed to get it to last me almost a whole day. If something changes that causes my battery to drain faster than I expect, I'll know because I'm used to how long the battery will last with the way I have it set up. It's like if you know you normally get X number of miles per fillup in your car and suddenly you're getting Y number of miles, something is up.

/end semi-rant

kwilsonw · May 19, 2010

cdodge said:
I am not sure how many people doubted you that you got 90+ hours but I think what most of them are saying is that they bought the smart phone to be a smart phone and use it the way it is intended to be used. I am not willing do disable everything to get 90+ hours. If i can just make it from morning to night with light usage I would be happy.

Ditto...except the most I get is 8 - 10 hrs with very light use. Maybe 30 minutes on internet, use gmail, no more than 10-15 minutes on phone calls, maybe 5 minutes on facebook, and no IM. I use only apps that came on the phone. I've looked to see what's using most of the battery - cell standby 35%, phone idle 22%, Android System 22%, voice calls 8% display 7%, dialer 4%, internet 2%
So pleeeaze tell me exactly which apps are battery hogs and what I'm doing wrong? I am not playing games, etc.

cdodge · May 19, 2010

kibble said:
It seems to me that many people who complain about the battery life may not have a long history of owning smart/pda phones.

kibble said:
/end semi-rant

I wouldn

cdodge · May 19, 2010

kwilsonw said:
Ditto...except the most I get is 8 - 10 hrs with very light use. Maybe 30 minutes on internet, use gmail, no more than 10-15 minutes on phone calls, maybe 5 minutes on facebook, and no IM. I use only apps that came on the phone. I've looked to see what's using most of the battery - cell standby 35%, phone idle 22%, Android System 22%, voice calls 8% display 7%, dialer 4%, internet 2%

kwilsonw said:
So pleeeaze tell me exactly which apps are battery hogs and what I'm doing wrong? I am not playing games, etc.

I am in the same boat as you. I even wiped my phone and installed 0 apps and still had only 8 -10 hours. (Until i found the battery charging trick)

I realize people are trying to help us but when they keep telling us there is no issue it gets frustrating.

And when Google says that if you don

photographx · May 19, 2010

kibble said:
Every phone I've gotten, the trend is towards everything being smaller, and that includes the battery. You can't exactly expect battery life to increase just because it's a newer phone.

Why not?

What's wrong with asking the manufacturers and carriers to provide adequate power?

Third-party high capacity batteries do not have to be the way of life with cell phones.

photographx · May 19, 2010

kwilsonw said:
Ditto...except the most I get is 8 - 10 hrs with very light use. Maybe 30 minutes on internet, use gmail, no more than 10-15 minutes on phone calls, maybe 5 minutes on facebook, and no IM.

+1

justbrae1 · May 19, 2010

cdodge said:
I am in the same boat as you. I even wiped my phone and installed 0 apps and still had only 8 -10 hours. (Until i found the battery charging trick)

I realize people are trying to help us but when they keep telling us there is no issue it gets frustrating.

And when Google says that if you don

hybrd · May 19, 2010

Hey Guys,

First post (been lurking for a while and haven't bought my DI yet but wanted to get an answer about this)

I was reading somewhere and it seemed to suggest that a lot of the sense UI apps kind of suck when it comes to constantly checking servers. Some people even said that not using any of the Sense packaged apps seemed to be better for battery life overall (ie. using Gmail over Sense's mail app). I was wondering if people had similar experiences with the sense apps?

Also I was wondering if there were any IM apps that people suggested that isn't too battery hogging? / is there a native GTalk app that is better? Sorry if these questions are kind of clueless.

kibble · May 19, 2010

photographx said:
Why not?

What's wrong with asking the manufacturers and carriers to provide adequate power?

Third-party high capacity batteries do not have to be the way of life with cell phones.

I'm not saying that third party batteries are the solution, heck, I wish they would have thrown a bigger battery in there myself, even if it added to the thickness a bit. The problem, as I see it, is that consumers want smaller, faster, and more feature packed. So if it HAD come with a bigger battery included, there would be those people that would complain about it being too big.

Here's a little piece of info I read about on wikipedia on OLED's:

"Power consumption

While an OLED will consume around 40% of the power of an LCD displaying an image which is primarily black, for the majority of images, it will consume 60

drtrmiller · May 30, 2010

To those who say "people who 'use' their phone only get a few hours of usage," here are my latest battery stats--and I use my Incredible exactly as described in the first post:

1 day, 19 hours, 32 minutes since last charge

Cell standby 40%--Time on 1 day, 19 hours, 32 minutes, Time without signal 0%
Phone idle 38%--Time on 1 day, 17 hours, 53 minutes
Voice calls 12%--Time on 1 hour, 21 minutes
Android system 8%--CPU Total 12 minutes
Display 2%--Time on 1 hour, 39 minutes (heavy *cough* pr0n *cough* web surfing)

9% Battery Remaining

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