Why does Android keep closing pages in my apps ?

jack63ss · Mar 29, 2019

I am REALLY tired of AmazonOS/Android causing my apps to close pages if I switch to another app. Ex., if I try to login into an app with 2 level auth, I switch away to read the email with the security code and when I come back the app has gone back to the login page. Or I am filling out Feedback popup, go to look at something and come back to find the feedback page gone. I do not think this is an app issue, as you don't have this issue when you minimize on Windows, it seems to do with how Android handles minimizing. Android is a good OS, but this is a fundamental problem and really annoying. I am running the latest 5.3.6.4.
Jack

dontpanicbobby · Mar 29, 2019

Being just a regular user that only happens to me with YouTube.
What kind of apps do you write @jack63ss?

mikedt · Mar 29, 2019

"I am running the latest 5.3.6.4"?

That sounds like some manufacturer specific version coding. What phone, or tablet, or TV box, etc have you actually got there? Maybe it doesn't have enough RAM so it can keep apps open? Are you using any task killers?

For information the latest Android version released by Google is 9.0, known as Pie.

JAy3001 · Mar 29, 2019

This can be down to several issues.

You have low resources so that when you open a new app the other app gets closed in the background.
The OS is actually being too forceful and killing any app that drops out of focus.

Regarding websites, Google has a very annoying half ar**ed browser that it uses when you search for items within the search bar or voice search.(Looks like the attached pic). Once active you can browse as normal but the moment you go off to check another app you loose where you were and have to search again. This you can fix by hitting the options key and asking to open the page in a real browser. That way you can return to your page anytime.

You can resolve some of these issues by using the recent apps button instead of using app shortcuts as doing so can restart the app instead of picking up where you left off.

Any high level app such as banking will automatically log you out when the app loses focus, this is purely a safety feature; with some apps you can change this setting so that you have a timer rather than instant logout.

Further to apps being closed down, you can adjust the battery monitor settings for each app within the settings/apps area of your phone to help assist the keeping alive the processes you like in the background.

Some phones tho feature their own software that monitors and kills unneeded processes automatically such as Samsung and Huawei. In which case go into the settings page and look for something along the lines of Device Care etc..

MoodyBlues · Mar 29, 2019

JAy3001 said:
This can be down to several issues.

You have low resources so that when you open a new app the other app gets closed in the background.

The OS is actually being too forceful and killing any app that drops out of focus.

This is not what I'm understanding the OP to be describing. He says:

jack63ss said:
if I try to login into an app with 2 level auth, I switch away to read the email with the security code and when I come back the app has gone back to the login page. Or I am filling out Feedback popup, go to look at something and come back to find the feedback page gone

As I read it, it's not the app that's closing, it's the page the app was on that disappears.

jack63ss · Mar 29, 2019

Let me expand on what I said. First, I will agree that it seems to be a browser issue, but I have seen it in both Opera and Firefox. I have an Amazon Fire 10 running Android 5.3.6.4, which is based on Android 5.1. What happens is I start an browser, let's say Opera. You go to a website to login, enter the username and password, and it tells you to enter the code it just emailed you. So you switch to your email app, get the code and go back to Opera. The app goes active, but reloads the page instead if going back to where it was. Or in other cases I start entering something in a web form, switch to a different app, and again when I go back the browser reloads instead of just reopening.
I guess it could be how the browsers work, but that would not make a lot of sense, since it seems to work okay on Windows. So if no one else sees this then I might believe it was an Amazon OS problem.

JAy3001 · Mar 29, 2019

Ok @jack63ss This makes it a little more clearer, I have a Amazon Fire 10 at home however it is only used by my little one. If I get time tomorrow I'll have a play with it and see what I can find. Though I should mention it is mothering Sunday this weekend and I have a lot to sort out Saturday and clearly busy on Sunday.

Out of interest which email client are you using?

jack63ss · Mar 30, 2019

I use both the Gmail and Yahoo mail clients, but it does the same thing if I switch to KeePass to look for something. And thinking about it, KeePass does something similar, in that I will open it, look at an entry, switch away and when I come back it has logged me out. I took it for a feature, but maybe not. It has an idle timeout, but that is not what does it.
I am trying to remember if my Lenovo Tab2 did the same thing, before it died, but I am not sure.

ocnbrze · Mar 31, 2019

i found this for firefox:https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1168939

looks like firefox has an autorefresh feature that you can turn off. i use chrome and do not have this issue.

jack63ss · Apr 1, 2019

Being honest, I stopped using Firefox as i felt Opera was faster on my tablet, and from what I can find, Opera does not auto-refresh. I might try Firefox again with it disabled and see what happens.

And I appreciate the time everyone has put into trying to resolve my issue, but it is actually not that major an issue. I have learned that sometimes I just need to use my laptop or desktop to do some things. Although I run lots of Windows equipment (there are 3 laptops and 2 desktops at my house, and only 1 laptop is not mine), I am a Unix guy at heart, so I prefer Android over any other tablet Os.

Thanks
Jack

dontpanicbobby · Apr 1, 2019

I agree with @MoodyBlues Low resouces causing redundant apps to close
It's an Alphabet thing but it's a good thing!

jack63ss · Apr 1, 2019

So how do you get Low Resources in Android ? My understanding I thought that the Os would kick the least recently used app out of memory if it needed space to run a new app ? If that is true and the browser is the most recent when I switch to a new app, unless the browser is using virtually all of memory by itself then it should not be a problem ?

(Editorial: IMHO I totally dislike the way Android manages memory. When I exit an app I think it should be removed from memory, not left cached. The probability I will need it again that soon is pretty low and it means the garbage collection is part of the process termination and not incurred later on instead. BUT that is just MO )

dontpanicbobby · Apr 1, 2019

You answered your question in the first sentence @jack63ss. Too many email apps open. This stuff is getting amazingly intellegent. Forward emails.

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