What the heck is the deal with iphone users Vs Android users

toasty · May 27, 2010

I've noticed a pretty substantial amount of Apple Animosity on here. Apart from posts, there are numerous avatars with Android logos taking a whizz on Apple logos, etc.

Where exactly does that all come from? I've gotta say, I've got an android phone but I've also got an iPod touch, and the GUI on the iPod is just sooo intuitive. I recognize that we've all Android folks here, but I'm not sure how you could pick up an iPhone or iPod and find it ergonomically or technically flawed in some way. Yes, Android does some things better and that's why I have one, but it seem to me that the better marketing message is, "standing on the shoulders of geniuses, but doing it better" as opposed to "Apple sucks."

Thoughts?

grainysand · May 27, 2010

toasty said:
I've gotta say, I've got an android phone but I've also got an iPod touch, and the GUI on the iPod is just sooo intuitive. I recognize that we've all Android folks here, but I'm not sure how you could pick up an iPhone or iPod and find it ergonomically or technically flawed in some way.

I find its GUI absolutely [deleted] ugly. Icon grids. Black background. Hideous dock. It's hard not to find this aesthetically offensive.

Technically? The first time I picked up an iPhone, I was shocked it couldn't multi-task. I was like "Uhhh, my old Nokia can multi-task..." and couldn't grasp the idea of a "smartphone" that can't do the same. It's stupid and primitive.

Then there are the Appletards operating on sheer smug boasting about how their Macs "just work" when in truth most of them are terrible users who simply don't know how to use computers, and can only cope with limited devices that don't let them modify/tinker with anything. If Apple and their users were to be erased from the face of Earth tomorrow, absolutely nothing of value will have been lost.

Bnice · May 27, 2010

toasty said:
I've noticed a pretty substantial amount of Apple Animosity on here. Apart from posts, there are numerous avatars with Android logos taking a whizz on Apple logos, etc.

Where exactly does that all come from? I've gotta say, I've got an android phone but I've also got an iPod touch, and the GUI on the iPod is just sooo intuitive. I recognize that we've all Android folks here, but I'm not sure how you could pick up an iPhone or iPod and find it ergonomically or technically flawed in some way. Yes, Android does some things better and that's why I have one, but it seem to me that the better marketing message is, "standing on the shoulders of geniuses, but doing it better" as opposed to "Apple sucks."

Thoughts?

Why folks find it hard to believe that everyone don't want an iphone.

IOWA · May 27, 2010

Icon grids have been around since the gui was introduced back in the day 20+ years ago...

But I feel with apples current policies, anyone who supports them or buys their products supports draconian dictatorship control of products we own.

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autolycus · May 27, 2010

IOWA said:
But I feel with apples current policies, anyone who supports them or buys their products supports draconian dictatorship control of products we own.

All that draconian dictatorship stuff sounds very dramatic, but it's hard to be an all encompassing phone-lord with 15% market share. There's plenty of room for both Android and the iPhone. Hopefully the healthy competition between the two OSes will continue to deliver innovations that benefit everyone.

MJM128 · May 27, 2010

autolycus said:
All that draconian dictatorship stuff sounds very dramatic, but it's hard to be an all encompassing phone-lord with 15% market share. There's plenty of room for both Android and the iPhone. Hopefully the healthy competition between the two OSes will continue to deliver innovations that benefit everyone.

That's just why many don't support apple. We DONT want them to increase that market share, as it is. My issue with apple is pure ideological, why buy a device that hampers what you can do? Open platform or I don't buy it.

tthew · May 27, 2010

I'm personally not a fan of apple due to their sales and hardware release tactics, I mean when the iphone was first released you couldnt even send or receive a picture message.... I also hate their misleading adverts with a passion - putting "sequence shortened" in small text at the bottom of the screen, they make it look easier to use than it is, I also laugh how they claim that you can switch your lights off at home... but fail to say that you'd also need a home automation system to accomplish this... may have to complain to the ASA about that one..... I also cant beleive how many people keep buying the latest hardware release just so they can have features that should have been available in the first iteration of the device.

Vihzel · May 27, 2010

Apple fanboys are the absolute worst. Praising Apple for every device that they come out with. Ruthlessly defending Apple for even things that they've made mistakes on. That is how the Android fanboys were born.

IOWA · May 27, 2010

Funny part about me is, when android first debuted, I hated it. I won't lie, it was useless to me. Buut from 1.5 on, google transformed it sooo fast I was massively impressed.

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bluenova · May 27, 2010

There are a lot of people on the forum that don't have a gripe with Apple or their products but obviously you don't hear from those people as there isn't much point making a thread to say that.

trick202 · May 27, 2010

Personally, I find this obsession with apple and the iPhone to be THE ugliest thing about being among the Android Community.

I also find that the most vocal among the haters tend to just quote the same old chestnuts without really knowing exactly what they're talking about.

Anyway, I'm off to buy my Desire. YES! That's right, it's possible to have BOTH handsets without bursting into flames!

Anthony1 · May 27, 2010

toasty said:
I've noticed a pretty substantial amount of Apple Animosity on here. Apart from posts, there are numerous avatars with Android logos taking a whizz on Apple logos, etc.

Where exactly does that all come from? I've gotta say, I've got an android phone but I've also got an iPod touch, and the GUI on the iPod is just sooo intuitive. I recognize that we've all Android folks here, but I'm not sure how you could pick up an iPhone or iPod and find it ergonomically or technically flawed in some way. Yes, Android does some things better and that's why I have one, but it seem to me that the better marketing message is, "standing on the shoulders of geniuses, but doing it better" as opposed to "Apple sucks."

Thoughts?

The 'Apple hate' comes from several directions:

First are the 'Fanboys' who have taken an almost tribal loyalty to whatever product they've decided to adopt and will, almost without logical though, attack any product they see as 'competition' to their own. You see this everywhere: Playstation Vs Xbox, Pro-Evo soccer Vs FIFA, Canon Vs Nikon, Boeing Vs Airbus etc etc. It's absolutely endemic, and seems to be a part of human nature.

Second are the 'righteous indignation. people. They believe that innovation and good products deserve to succeed and that lack of innovation and bad products deserve to fail. They get irate when they see what they regard as a bad product succeeding, and many of them regard Apple products as succeeding far more than they should naturally do. They tend to therefore form a very negative view of Apple products.

Third are the sheep, who will just follow the crowd.

Fourth are the people who, usually from a bad personal experiancs, just genuinely don't like Apple products. There is some crossover between this group and the second group.

I tend to have some sympathy with the second group. I don't think that Apple make bad products, in fact I think most of them are pretty good, but I do think that they get more credit from many people than they deserve, and much of their success does seem to spring more from good marketing, reputation and image rather than genuine innovation and quality.

Anthony1 · May 27, 2010

trick202 said:
Anyway, I'm off to buy my Desire. YES! That's right, it's possible to have BOTH handsets without bursting into flames!

There's a surprise. I thought you'd go for an N1

What made you choose the desire?

HustlinDaily · May 27, 2010

I used to have an iBook, made the mistake of using it during a system update and it crashed. Apple was going to charge me $1k to get it fixed. Took it to a third party and they deemed it unfixable. Replaced it with a $400 Toshiba and been using that for the past 3 years (it is about 1/4 the price, faster and crashes just as often. "This application unexpectedly quit" is the same thing as a crash).

My hate on Apple is due to subpar products at premium prices.

There are at least 10 Android phones with hardware better than the iPhone (processor, ram, resolution, overall hardware specs) and the software- Android v iPhone OS is no comparison. "Easy to use" is nothing more than a fancy word for handcuffed/limited (jailbreaking does make it more customizable but it still does not compare to a rooted Android phone. Literally, anything can be changed).

Slug · May 27, 2010

Blind hatred knows no logic. It's frankly sad to see so many Android users copying the very behaviour they criticise Apple users for. For some the mere mention of "Apple" appears to trigger an automatic hostile response, no matter what the context.

Smg · May 27, 2010

I've never been interested in Apple products simply because you can buy something better and usually cheaper, for example their macbooks etc are way over-priced for the spec your getting and i could buy a laptop twice as powerful for probably half the price.

Then theres the fact that they never really invent anything they just sell it better which i will give them credit for they really could sell snow to eskimo's. Their more like a marketing company that happens to sell electronics rather than a electronics company.

But then ever since they started selling the Iphone it seems that theres now millions of people who can't think for themselves and that have seemed to have been brainwashed by Apple they buy anything that they bring out even if it really is a waste of money like the Ipad.

When the Iphone first came out people were going crazy for it despite the fact of how much apple wanted for it and it could'nt even do simple things like send MMS messages or multitask or copy & paste or send files by bluetooth etc...

Well no thanks i will stick with real electronics companys that actually invent new things like Sony & Samsung !.

Mr_N1ce · May 27, 2010

I have to agree with the initial post. I tried both Android and iPhone and was amazed in both cases with the usability of mobile internet and the ability to extend the phones features with apps.
To say the iPhone is "ugly" is up to personal taste but I think the worst you can say about its design is that its becoming just too common and mainstream.

In the end it was a decision between the restricted but easy iPhone with lots of high end apps & accessories and the customizable open Android. I personally picked Android but can understand people who like their iPhone.

IOWA · May 27, 2010

Blind hatred knows no logic. It's frankly sad to see so many Android users copying the very behaviour they criticise Apple users for. For some the mere mention of "Apple" appears to trigger an automatic hostile response, no matter what the context.

I disagree. People can hate something and be logical at the same time =P

And as far as mobile browsing, winmo's always had the lead up until recently.(opera and skyfire)

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Anthony1 · May 27, 2010

IOWA said:
I disagree. People can hate something and be logical at the same time =P

But then it wouldn't be 'blind hatred' would it?

IOWA · May 27, 2010

I disagree. People can hate something and be logical at the same time =P

Click to expand...

But then it wouldn't be 'blind hatred' would it?

What if its hatred with glasses :eek:

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chris100575 · May 27, 2010

I actually rather admire Apple, they've proven that if you make something shiny enough and tell people it's wonderful they'll buy it. Once they've got it home they will want to believe that it actually is the best, after all, why would they have paid so much for it otherwise? Plus, it is very shiny.

Even better, when the new version comes out they will be so thoroughly convinced that they'll buy that too, even though the only improvements are things the first version should have had anyway. Other people who've bought into the marketing hype will help to convince them that that was the right thing too, as they are just as reluctant to admit that they were seduced by shininess into overlooking obvious flaws and over-pricing.

Anthony1 · May 27, 2010

IOWA said:
What if its hatred with glasses

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Myopic hatred

irregularjoe · May 27, 2010

toasty said:
I've noticed a pretty substantial amount of Apple Animosity on here. Apart from posts, there are numerous avatars with Android logos taking a whizz on Apple logos, etc.

Where exactly does that all come from? I've gotta say, I've got an android phone but I've also got an iPod touch, and the GUI on the iPod is just sooo intuitive. I recognize that we've all Android folks here, but I'm not sure how you could pick up an iPhone or iPod and find it ergonomically or technically flawed in some way. Yes, Android does some things better and that's why I have one, but it seem to me that the better marketing message is, "standing on the shoulders of geniuses, but doing it better" as opposed to "Apple sucks."

Thoughts?

Well let's see..........HHHMMM.........oh yeah, now I remember! Apple Sucks.

grainysand · May 27, 2010

chris100575 said:
I actually rather admire Apple, they've proven that if you make something shiny enough and tell people it's wonderful they'll buy it. Once they've got it home they will want to believe that it actually is the best, after all, why would they have paid so much for it otherwise? Plus, it is very shiny.

Even better, when the new version comes out they will be so thoroughly convinced that they'll buy that too, even though the only improvements are things the first version should have had anyway. Other people who've bought into the marketing hype will help to convince them that that was the right thing too, as they are just as reluctant to admit that they were seduced by shininess into overlooking obvious flaws and over-pricing.

Ding ding ding. Using Apple products means you've overpaid for under-specced garbage: therefore you must convince yourself that your purchase was justified and it is truly the very best in the market--more expensive means better, amirite? When anyone questions this, you get defensive and lash out at the "opposing" products, be it Android or Windows. Most Appletards don't actually know much about either Android or, say, Windows 7. They'd rather blindly parrot "Windows crashes every five minutes! In 2000 I had to reformat and reinstall the OS every other day!" or "Android doesn't have any apps" and etc etc.

Funny story: I've a friend who adores Macs. She plans to purchase a Mac desktop that will cost more than my quad-core gaming rig and my unlocked Nexus combined, but which will sport hardware far far far inferior to said gaming rig and won't have the mobility of the Nexus. She thinks I'm silly for having spent "so much" on a phone. Irony.

Vihzel · May 27, 2010

Mac desktops are truly a complete rip-off. They overcharge their desktops like crazy. You can build a far more powerful desktop of your own for MUCH MUCH less.

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