Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Asterdroid, Jan 5, 2012.
Hey all. Quick question. Has anyone heard anything about the 4.0.3 update? As in when it's coming?
There was a rumor that it was coming at the end of this month, but didn't seem very reliable (as in came from a retail store CSR). That is the only thing I have heard of.
I'd say we'll get it some time in the next year or so .
Why? Do we know what will be updated in 4.0.3?
i'm thinking the official will drop this month. then 4.1 in march.
So much for quick updates on a Nexus device.
I blame Verizon.
Actually this one might not be Verizon... I've heard from a few people that Google is the one that is holding back on 4.0.3 for right now. Word is they are going to wait and just release 4.1 instead.
Now with that said the source for 4.0.3 has been out for a while now and we have custom ROMs that are using it, however there are a few minor bugs (nothing major). Overall 4.0.3 isn't anything that big over 4.0.2, if Google has some changes that they already have ready for 4.1 (which will be a bigger change) then it makes sense to hold out and just release 4.1.
I will try to briefly explain device update processes and why they take so long and the advantages the Nexus has.
A normal device Android update has the following waiting periods: 1. Wait for Google to release/push new version of Android. 2. Phone manufacturer(HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc..) customizes this software to their liking and makes sure it is compatible with all of a given phone's features, also bug testing. 3. Carrier/Verizon does their own lengthy scrutinizing process to ensure it meets certain quality standards. If it fails, it goes back to step 2.
The international GSM Galaxy Nexus(and all previous Nexus devices) only has step 1. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus still has step 1 and step 3. It will be faster to get new versions of Android than anything else(save the GSM GN) still just because you're not spending months waiting on Samsung/Motorola/HTC to customize. I hope this clears things up.
As of writing this, Google is holding the update back, not Verizon. If Google had released the update for the Galaxy Nexus, the GSM international version would have it now.
Actually what's funny is that the VZW version got 4.0.2 before the GSM version did.
pretty sure the gsm version doesn't even have 4.0.3 yet. you blame verizon for that too?
Yeah, I know I'm rooted but still. Isn't that the point of having the Gnex?
Geez, the phone only has been out for about 3-4 weeks and you need an update already.
I say be happy with what you have, There is not any other phone getting ICS until it is happy with the Nexus.
And just think when the other phones finally get ICS, it will be BLOATED to the hilt.
^^^ Now you can thank me for the speech or go get a phone with Ginger Bread plus the bloat.
I dont understand why motorola or vz would allow other gingerbread phones to go to 4.0 because they rely so heavily on bloatware...
The GNex is unique in that it basically circumvented Verizons SOP: its more Samsung teaming up with Google, then sending the phone to Verizon and Verizon selling it outright.
Once 4.0 is "mature" enough to hit other phones, Verizon will become part of the process again, getting the phone after the manufacturer (Moto, HTC, etc) and Google, then testing, adding their specs, bloatware, etc.
4.0 doesnt stop bloatware, just like 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 didnt stop bloatware. We just so happen to be seeing the first (and maybe the last, who knows!) "pure Google" phone from Verizon.
I have never seen a statement from google or vzw that support this, or even the aforementioned "google is skipping right to 4.1" statement.
Sure I've seen random people in forums that I don't know trying to pass this off as fact. Care to point the community in the right direction here to support these statements?
The second paragraph is just a guess.
The first paragraph is based on the fact that the GNex was always spoken of (pre-release and post-release, in articles, forums, etc) as a phone that wouldnt be touched by Verizon. A good piece of evidence its true is that you can grab the 4.0 source from Google, build it, put it on the phone and it looks no different than what came out of the box (although I have read of some people seeing two different build.prop versions....one Samsung, one Google)
I dont remember mentioning anything about 4.1.
Wow. No need to jump down my throat guys (not all of you). It was just a simple question, not a complaint.
The reason I asked is because I'm rooted, but haven't been particularly impressed with any of the 4.0.3 ROMs. I'm actually very happy with stock 4.0.2.
I do, however, want to run a new kernel, mostly for UV and GPU OC. The problem is the selection of 4.0.2 kernels is extremely limited.
Hopefully Faux will work out the kinks in his 4.0.2 kernel and that'll do the trick until 4.0.3 comes out officially.
It's above your post. Maybe people saying or recycling something to the effect of "Google has decided to skip 4.0.3 and just work on 4.1". But have never seen a statement from Google about this. It's probably someone spreading rumors.
I agree. The biggest draw to my first Samsung device (Fascinate) was because its so easily rooted, ROMed, Kerneled, etc. On the other hand, that was required to get rid of bloat, lag, working notifications without an actual LED, etc.
After playing with the GNex the last couple days I have to say even in its stock form its pretty impressive. And as someone else said on one of the threads around here: LED notification that actually works, barely any visible lag, almost no bloat, etc. kinda takes away any good reason to hack it. (except for UV, OC like you mentioned, and maybe just the need to tinker around)
I can only imagine the improvements Google will make on 4.X. I remember the huge difference between Eclair and GB, and those were just point releases within 2.X.
Links about 4.1 from December.
Those don't support the question I asked, not even close.
Again, where is the statement from Google about moving to 4.1 and scrapping 4.0.3?
That's different than a leak. Many times, even on samsung phones, VZW has regressed to an "older version number", but with "newer files". Anything is a go at this point.
Google hasn't come out an said it. What I said in my post is that there is talk from people that know things (bloggers who have been right in that past), that Google would be skipping 4.0.3 and moving straight to 4.1. I don't think anyone is stating it as fact, just that there is a chance and it makes sense that if 4.1 is being worked on and can be ready before they push 4.0.3 that it would be pushed out.
As for VZW having anything to do with updates or how they are pushed to this phone. It is a Nexus thing, if you noticed there have been people that did not even have their phone activated on the VZW network yet that recieved the 4.0.2 update. That means it came directly from Google and Samsung.
The only two "bloat" apps the VZW put on the phone were My Verizon and Back up assistant. The first one of those is something they HAVE to include because of the class action law suit they lost about data overages. The second one is probably just them trying to help out (even though it isn't needed at all on a Google phone).
Trust me it isn't even close to what a normal VZW phone comes with in terms of bloat. Hell my TBolt had almost a gig worth of useless bloat apps (most of them just links to download the paid version). Also both of the apps that VZW included can be removed with out rooting, that is something that would have come directly from Google. VZW would have never allowed that unless forced.
BMX did post about this topic about a week ago.
He more or less said that the update will be released very soon. So if you need a answer, I would read what he is saying about ICS updates.
BMX does leak out good info.
BTW for those that don't know who BMX is, he used to work as an LTE tech for VZW and now works for Google. He is also the one who said before VZW released the Nexus that it would not be exclusive for long, and Sprint just anounced that they will be releasing the Nexus soon.
This put it in perspective for me at least and has tempered my fervor a bit. I still wish I had better reception in my office at work though.