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  1. Gfplux

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    I have had my note 2 for 6 months and love it. However one irritation I have as an ex iPhone user is the four number password I have set up to access the phone. I put the four numbers in and then have to tap OK. This makes it a five tap process. On the iPhone and my iPad if the correct four numbers are put in the device opens up making only four taps. This really irritates me. Is there something that can be done.
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    Seriously, this bothers you?

    change your security to something other than number tapping..
     
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    Please don't take this the wrong way but to the OP are you being serious?
     
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    Part of the reason is probably because you can use more than 4 digits for your PIN.

    But yeah, if it bothers you that much you need to step away from Android and go back to iOS.
     
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    Or use a 3 digit number to get to 4 taps :rolleyes:
     
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    I like a pattern lock myself:) One quick swype and I'm in. That's just my opinion.

    I tried the 3 or 4 or more pin unlock thing, and to use that one handed is not hard, but a pattern lock seemed easier to me. fwiw
     
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    Also lets keep the remarks to the OP civil and answer the question and not attack his request. cheers
     
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    I've found that the pattern lock works better for me. I just thumb a circle, and all is well.
     
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    Just FYI, there are some of us who have business email accounts on our phones that require at least a four digit PIN: patterns and face recognition are disabled by the protection software that the business requires.

    To the O.P.: if you can get away with 3 digits, try that. Else, simplify your passcode by repeating digits. FWIW, one of the digits, Zero, is much easier to hit than the others, and it's right next to OK, so maybe you could try that...
     
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    i have read this thread three times now and my opinion has changed each and every time.
    at first i thought it was silly and decided to walk away and attempt to think about it from a different perspective.
    i have come to realize that there are other similar events that occur on the note 2 (btw- i love this phone) which are likewise annoying and over engineered.
    why, for instance, do you need to confirm three or four times that you want to delete a sms message. i love the last confirmation box that asks "are you sure"... i was sure when i requested to delete the first time.
    i also agree that once you have entered your pass code that it should automatically open, not ask "are you sure" (ok)?
    i know that these are small annoyances in the grand scheme of things but in a world that is exceedingly fast paced why do we need confirmation after confirmation.
     
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    I have to admit I also found it irritating. At first I would key in my code and wait....then realise I had to press ok, its just force of habit that needs breaking (remember the 90s when you changed from a nokia to a motorola and the sms timing was all different....this is no where near as irritating as that was!). Now I use the pattern lock with the same numbers. works a treat
     
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    Just for everyone's FYI (I love how they say that in Clueless), if you are rooted you can install a version of email that has security disabled so you can use whatever unlock you would like.
     
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    I am the original poster and I am disappointed that the initial replies to my request for help were so negative.
    The point I was trying to make and obviously failing was that there was a better/simpler system (in my opinion) on the iPhone and WHY could not that better arrangement be used on the SG NOTE2.
    The android fan boys saw this as an attack on Android. Others more sensible have seen the point of my post.
    To answer other suggestions even if my code was 1111 ( four taps but all the same number) in Android I then have to confirm the code by tapping OK.
    on my old Iphone and my present iPad 1111 opens the devise without the extra tap on OK.
    SIMPLES!
    So back to my original question (perhaps this should be addressed to Google) why can't you adopt or offer the choice of the simple 4 tap opening.
    Or is there a work around.
    Thanks everyone for your sympathetic ears.
     
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    You can do exactly what you're suggesting with a rooted device.

    Its not available on stock android probably because apples got a patent on such an "innovation" and will sue
     
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    Again.
    Also I have had custom roms where you didn't need to press enter. So the devs obviously can do that but I can't remember which rom it was. But it is definitely possible. Thing is as it's such a minor thing for a rom, it won't necessarily be listed in the main features description so it might be hard to find.
     
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    I have a 6 digit lock and I feel a little more secured knowing the ok button needs to be pushed. It no different than an ATM machine, interac or credit card. But that's just me. It prevents an unknown user with a high amount of luck entering the magic numbers and getting into the system. Considering they know it automatically unlocks with the right combination.
     
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    The problem with pattern lock is that another person can easily get into your phone by looking at the smudge/smear on the screen left behind when you sign in. Thus, it is NOT the most secure way to lock your phone...and certainly not something i would recommend if you have sensitive materials on your phone.

    Note: even tho it is not secure, i do use pattern lock because it is fastest and allows for one-handed sign-in.

    I have iPhone 5 also in my household...and understand your issue. Unfortunately, we have plenty of fanboys on here that have diarrhea of the mouth whenever i-Device is mentioned.

    It could be that Apple has patented it ("simple passcode")...thus preventing Samsung (and others) from employing it on their device. This is why a long push on HOME button gives you list of active apps, but a double push on the button gives you S-Voice. (This is, of course, the complete opposite to iPhone operation.)
     
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    I respectfully disagree....I have seen that mentioned before---about seeing the smudge marks left behind....once I unlock my device with a pattern lock, and start using it, how can someone be able to see my smudges?

    I would think the only way to guess someone's pattern code is if the screen is scratched with the pattern. But that's a lot of unlocking not to mention trying to guess the direction of the pattern.

    But I agree with you that it is not the most secure:)
     
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    I understand. But unless you're an avid gamer (like Fruit Ninja) or you're in the habit of scrolling a lot while web browsing, the pattern can be seen thru the few tap smudges. Like i said above, i still use it because of the simplicity of it.
     
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    My apologies for the harshness.

    I personally use iOS6 on a 3GS (work) and JB on GN2 (personal) every single day. Previously my personal phone was a DINC2 with GB. I do prefer Android but I have no major problem with iOS.

    I still stand by what I said before though. Android allows you to use more than 4 characters where iOS does not. My wife just got an iPhone 5 in a switch from Android and she used a 5 digit code on her Android device. She had to think of a new code that made sense to accommodate the 4 digit max. This is probably why you have to confirm with ok rather than just typing in 4 and it unlocking.
     
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    iOS allows for more complex passcode... anything you want! But simple passcode is limit to 4 numbers. No jailbreaking required...it is part of iOS that not many people know about.

    See:http://netsecurity.about.com/od/iphoneipodtouchapps/a/How-To-Strengthen-Your-Iphones-Passcode.htm

    And the fact that iOS 6 works on your 3GS should make Android embarrass! :D
     
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    Why should Android be embarrassed about this?
     
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    So, after you put in your more complex password, do you have to press ok? If so then that is identical to Android and the issue of this thread is really the difference between a simple and complex code.

    +1

    I certainly do not have all the latest and greatest features. Those are reserved for the latest iPhone at the time. Ie Siri, turn by turn, etc.
     
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    The point of this thread is that the "simple passcode" does NOT need to press OK. With Android, there is no way to do this without rooting...even if you use 4 numbers.

    But, my point above, which you apparently had no clue about is that Apple does allow the same flexibility as Android if you so desired. And if you don't, then there is the simple passcode option that allows for quick access.

    Apple 3GS came out at about the same time as which Android? (June 2009) Name me an Android phone from that era that has JB or even ICS as official installment. You can't.

    Now, while it is true that a FEW features of iOS6 is not present on 3GS due to lack of horsepower (CPU/GPU), MOST of the iOS6 features run smoothly on 3GS. Since I am not sure how familiar racer12306 is with iOS, here is a review of 3GS and iOS6: Tempting fate: Installing iOS 6 on the iPhone 3GS | Ars Technica

    "iOS 6 doesn't make the iPhone 3GS any slower or more difficult to use than it was before, which should be good news to anyone who keeps theirs around as a secondary or backup phone—indeed, it's pleasantly surprising how many of the refinements and improvements make their way down to Apple's oldest-supported piece of iOS hardware."

    This is in stark contrast to rival smartphones introduced alongside it just over three years ago: the entire range of Windows Mobile 6.x devices, Palm's webOS Pre and Pixi, RIM's Blackberry 5.x lineup and all hardware running Google's Android 2.0 Eclair are not just unsupported today by those platforms' latest releases, but were in all cases not even supported through the first two years' contract life of those devices.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Wow I thought it was just me lol, but I had Paranoid Android running on my old Gs2, and this is definitely something I became a custom to! I really wish it would accept 3 number s lol, I can't do the swipe pattern is not quick enough for me. I've actually had a bad experience with my swipe code being watched then successful reproduced...
     

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