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  1. vikingjunior

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    I'm going to exchange my optimus T for a My touch 4 g as the screen is to small for my eyes. That and the gingerbread update seems like a winner.

    One thing that concerns me is the track pad.

    !. Does it act as a home button?

    2. Does it wake up the device?

    3. Does it wake up and unlock device?

    I'm not into rooting and all that but these are make or break questions.

    Thanks
     

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    I must admit I never use it. I use the power button to wake up the phone and the Home button for that purpose. The unlock swipe is so trivial that I would not even consider it. Hope this helps.
     
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    To answer my own question the trackpad wakes the device but doesn't act as a home button. It might seem trivial but I passed on it for this reason. I just don't understand why HTC puts the home button on the far left.
     
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    I hate the trackpad on my MT4G (something I forgot to add to my dislikes that's actually a HTC hardware issue, not an Android issue.)

    The trackpad, IMHO, fails on a few levels. First, it has a slightly sunken feeling, concave. It should be the opposite, with the slight arch to the outside facing the user. Because the radius is inwards & instead of the opposite makes for a sporadic, jittery, and oftentimes useless trackpad experience, IMHO... very counter-productive for something that's supposed to be considered as a serious business solution. If not convex. should at least be perfectly flat. As a result, the performance suffers. At random the cursor will either not move enough, or move way too far. No rhyme or reason.

    Every time I have to use the trackpad, it's always an aggravating experience. Gee, I can't wait to replace this thing...
     
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    Only time I use the track pad is to wake the phone up. Other than that I never use it.
     
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    Well that's one more use than I make of it. I never used the track ball on my MT3G either. Frankly I'm mystified by some of the complaints about these phones that I see on this forum.

    "Oh dear, I couldn't use that phone. Its camera doesn't come with a fish eye lens."

    It's a phone!
     
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    If you actually owned the MT4G you might understand the issues some of us are facing with these phones, my friend. They are not inconsequential.

    As far as trackpad use for mine, I use mine for correcting the dysfunctional auto-correct typos I get when scrolling up and down lines of text. Let's see a trackpad on it that actually works like one. If not, they shouldn't put one on the phone. :)
     
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    I DO own a MT4G, and I use mine for a fair variety of things other than just as a phone. I even tried leaving my laptop at home on a recent trip and doing everything I needed to do with my MT4G, just as an experiment. It is NOT a computer and, I have to believe, was never intended to be one. So I accept its limitations and use it for what it does well, and that is quite a bit. Just as I would not try to drive a nail with the handle of a screwdriver, I don't try to do word processing with my phone.

    I hope you can find a phone that does everything you would like it to do, but I suspect if you ever do it will be as big as a small laptop. I'm afraid our fingers are part of the limitation. I once had a 7" netbook and could actually touch type on it fairly well. However, it would not fit into my shirt pocket and I would have looked pretty silly holding it up to my ear. :)
     
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    tukatz- You have it listed on your "info" that you have the "MT3G bar"...so ya might want to freshen that up.

    I don't expect something pocket-sized to replace my computer, and that's why I travel with both- many times I'm using my phone as a mobile hotspot for my MAC. So, no, I'm NOT expecting the MT4G to replace my computer- I don't want it to quite frankly. There is a place for both. A one-stop solution in time may, MAY be the 3-rd gen iPad. But going back to the MT4G, the trackpad should be functional, AND IT'S NOT. In fact, it's counter-productive. I came from 6 years of BlackBerry devices, so I'm not imposing unrealistic expectations on this phone whatsoever. The other issues some of us are facing ARE REAL with this phone, and not because we expect the phone to be a full-blown computer.

    But, as you cite word processing, for an example- I expect today's bundled Android solution to be at least as robust, sensible & stable as my BB 8700g in 2007.. and it's NOT... That is an epic FAIL on the part of Android. YMMV.

    Furthermore, "everything I would like it to do" entails what it was designed to do, without hassle. Right now, it's just not doing it, though admittedly 2.3.4 was a huge step fwd, and took care of a few major problems.... but still has others unresolved, or, a new one I never had before: I can be typing in a text message string to an individual, and suddenly without warning, the screen will skip up to the top of the message string- just "blip", and it skips up to the top. If you have more than say, 3 texts on that string to an individual it's quite inconvenient.
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out - fixed.

    I've done the same (hotspot) - usually when staying somewhere that either does not provide Wi-Fi or wants to charge an arm and a leg for it.

    It sounds like it is fortunate that I don't (or at least very rarely) text. I do read e-mails sometimes, but rarely respond to them with my phone. I use mine as a GPS, an e-book reader, for managing a grocery shopping list, to translate English to Italian, checking news and weather, and other stuff like that. For the ways I use it, it works great.
     
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    Yeah I have a MT4g and this board baffles me too...
     
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    1 no
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    See post 10 in this thread... something you wish to add here? :D
     
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    You're welcome. I've found texting to be somewhat necessary in this day, and I hate texting and do it as little as possible. For the most part, it's easier to phone somebody, wouldn't you agree? There certainly are exceptions. But I'm not one of the younger, text-mad addicts who spell their texts like "hw r u?" either, or whatever other english atrocities they commit. Next generation of kids won't be able to spell their way out of a sandbox... har!

    As far as emails- agreed. I too, would rather just read mine from the phone; and if there is any response that needs more than one or two sentences I wait to get back to my computer. The touchscreen keyboard on this thing just blows for anything more than small chores. IMHO, YMMV, etc...
     
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    What do you mean next generation? I went on a poker run recently where the checkpoints were historical monuments. One of them from the 1800s had a spelling error carved in stone.
     
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    priceless...

    but I bet it didn't read like today's avg young texter's writing does. hehehe
     
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    Loss Prevention, going on 8 years now!
    Ohio, GO BROWNS!
    I own one as well and honestly for me barely use the optical trackpad as I dont really see a point in it. I just use the tip of my finger and works just fine, sometimes I may need to do it twice to get to correct spot, but for when I have used it, it worked just as it should. Not sure why you have so many problems with your mytouch, but I have read maybe 6 threads here as I just joined and I would say 3 of them you are in bishing about your phone.

    So either get rid of it and or suck it up and stop complaining. Majority of the users dont have your issues.

    By the way, I have and still use a 9700 on the daily as well.....and my mytouch4g is my main phone for many reasons....as much as I love my BB.
     
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    How kind of you, and making quite a splash here for a new member. I don't remember asking for your permission to post more than once. Oh, and I'll get rid of my phone when I decide to. Have a nice day.
     
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    Loss Prevention, going on 8 years now!
    Ohio, GO BROWNS!
    Cereal? People will never cease to amaze me, really!
     
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    I obviously don't have the problems some have had with their 4Gs, but that may be because of the way I use mine. I'm glad you are not having problems either. However, the accepted standard of behavior on most forums is civility. You may really disagree with another's post, but do so politely. As your mother likely told you, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
     
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    Loss Prevention, going on 8 years now!
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    what is with you people on this forum? It seems as you guys get the proverbial panties in a bunch quite easily.

    I have once to complain, yet all that dude does is and has complained over and over. Heck even you two bantered back and forth in a thread. Funny!

    Now i know why I still like Crackberry.
     
  22. tukatz

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    Yes, 1BlinkGone and I have bantered back and forth, but I believe we have tried to remain respectful in our banter. One can challenge a bit without being rude.
    I have, at times, held a door open for people of both genders and all ages. The vast majority of them have thanked me, just as I have thanked those who have held a door open for me. There have been times when I held a door for a person who I later concluded was a radical feminist who would have sooner told me to go to Hell than thanked me. I have been tempted to respond to that person's silence with 'you're welcome', but have usually held my tongue. There is enough grief and antagonism in this world without you and I adding to it.
    Please try to see that the other person is looking for ideas and assistance and, if you are not able to help, avoid criticizing them. Question politely, and then move on.
    If this rubs you the wrong way, I'm sorry. Most of us will stick around as long as we derive value from this forum or can provide help to others. When it becomes aggravating we are out of here, and that is a loss for us and for the rest of the members.
     
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    Loss Prevention, going on 8 years now!
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    Thanks for your kind socialism outlook on the situation on an open forum. I never once was rude to the dude, just told him to stop his bishing, as well.....that is what he has done in the small amount of time I have been here.

    I think I know how to conduct myself on an open forum. I have been part of many over the years. Some I have embarrising to say over 40k of posts.....been a mod on a few and have helped my fair share of people out on topics I feel I can help.

    I also will speak my mind, here or there. Free speech is amazing no?

    Now if I was belittling the fellow and or directly insulting him in obscence ways, then I understand fully what a forum mod would eventually do.

    Why so uptight? Serious question? I didnt make the guy quite the forum. Heck you two were going at it quite a bit, yet I am made the bad guy. Funny....no, really it is...pot meet kettle....
     
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    In your first post in this thread you said,
    "So either get rid of it and or suck it up and stop complaining."
    You don't consider that rude? Seems to me that it contradicts your assertion that you know how to conduct yourself, but it isn't worth any more of my time.
     
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    um....there's no trackpad on the mt4g. it's touchscreen. if anyone is using the square button in the middle of the bottom portion of the phone as a trackpad you are a ******.

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