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  1. pauly814

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    Anyone know what the problem might be.

    I run advanced task killer to close most of the apps running on my phone except for clock, email, alarm clock and gmail
    I'll run the task killer, it will close everything but the above apps and then a few seconds later all the other apps will start to open again. Apps like music hub, media hub, calculator, google+, facebook, etc.

    Any way to actually make these stay off/closed until i launch them?
     

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    As it has been quoted in other threads... You're doing it wrong!

    Task Managers are not needed, they are never needed. You are wasting battery life in using it.

    If you think you need it because you have low free RAM, don't think that. This is UNIX/Linux, free/available RAM is wasted RAM. This ain't Windows.

    Anyways, leave memory and process management up to the core Android OS. It knows how to handle your RAM and processor usage. Don't fight Android, you're going going to kill your battery faster. They keep coming back because those processes have things to do, killing them, having them respawn, and killing them again, etc. serves only one thing... to kill your battery.
     
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    I wrote an article on why task killers aren't needed, please read it here. You would be much better off uninstalling your task killer and letting android manage things.
     
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    But to get technical, there are two types of processes; active processes and cached processes. Active processes are processes that are being used. Cached processes usually refers to processes that do not have a foreground activity and do not have a running service. These processes are kept in memory simply because we have enough memory to do so, and therefore, the user can switch back to these processes quickly.

    As Android starts to need more system RAM for yet other processes, the "cached background processes" tend to be the processes that get terminated to free up system RAM.

    What these Task Managers don't take into account are these "active processes," they kill off processes with no regard as to what the state of that process is. Those "active processes" are killed off, then respawned because... well, you stopped them from doing something in the middle of their task.

    How would you like to be told to stop what you're doing by being whacked upside the back of your skull? Well, you wouldn't like that. Essentially, that's what these Task Managers do, whack the process upside the head and they come back with a vengeance.
     
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    I've uninstalled the task killer.

    I wish I could uninstall all of these verizon preloaded apps that i do not need.
     
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    Just disable them in app manager mate :thumbup: or root and uninstall them
     
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    cant seem to disable them, only force stop is available....but they just start right back up again
     
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    I would recommend that you try not to worry about what apps are doing and how much memory/ram is being used, all you're doing is battling the system and the system will always win.. android is very good about managing things these days. I found that, when I stopped worrying about the system and let android do its thing, I had more time to relax and enjoy my devices.
     
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    They aren't actually "running", they just get cached to bring up later.

    If you want to get rid of them altogether, you'll have to root. Such is the life of carrier bloatware
     
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    That would be a good reason to root.
     
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    But why does my s3 come with a task killer by default? " clear memory"/ recent apps manager
     
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    Because there are legitimate times to use it. Apps can misbehave, and its much easier to have someone kill it in the task manager than go into application settings and force close it.
     
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    I couldn't have said it better myself!
     
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    I agree that you don't need an actively running task manager app. But I would definitely not call them useless. I have used the ATK and the HTC Task Manager built into HTC Sense to stop misbehaving apps. I guess force close would work but it takes more steps to get there.

    When I was using 3 apps at a time for fitness (Music, Cardiotrainer and C25K) one app would be guaranteed to crash before the end of my workout. I started using ATK to manually stop a number of apps before I got started, to clear keep other activities from interrupting/crashing my apps. This worked great. Very rare that my apps would crash during a workout if I first used ATK. Was actually recommended by the C25K developer.

    So I definitely believe in using these task killer apps for specific purposes. With ATK, I only use it to manually stop programs, and I've carefully set up my ignore list.
     
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    Please no one use a task killer. If an app has crashed use the built in method. If you're using an app that regularly crashes, perhaps its not that good an app. If that developer advises you use a task killer.... well....
     
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    Gota admit, i used ATK for a while when playing with clock speeds and benchmarks just to try n keep things fair :)
     
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    *sigh*

    *leaves thread*

    Nothing good can come of me staying here.
     
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    Yep- task killers are a no-no, especially on a current top-tier phone like the GS3. You're talking about a phone with 1-2GB of RAM, and that coupled with the built-in memory management Android handles on its own means you are only sucking up battery as the system restarts processes that the task manager keeps killing.
     

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