1. Download our Official Android App: Forums for Android!

All HTC Inspire 4G Previews/Reviews in here!

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Loiselle, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Loiselle

    Loiselle Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    233
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011

    Christ.

    I've walked into a pissing contest.

    Put the swords away guys.
     

    Advertisement

  2. Allenfx

    Allenfx Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    340
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011

    Jan 6, 2011
    340
    48
    43
    SouthEast
    Agreed..but who uploads a whole days worth of facebook photos in one day?

    Thats a case of going with the WORST POSSIBLE scenario to make a point is it not?

    That was supposed to be 256kps and you KNEW what i meant

    Its irrelevant anyway because we are looking at something more akin to 1mbs per second on these and you are complaining that its not 5.76...and at 1mbs it would go through in less than 5 seconds.

    My argument stands..point stands. Typo does is irrelevant.
     
  3. harlenm

    harlenm Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    148
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010

    Dec 18, 2010
    148
    7
    36
    Not really, I've uploaded a few dozen pictures to Facebook multiple times. And on vacation you don't have a wifi network all the time.

    And it's not a worst case scenario. It's a smartphone that is meant to be used to it's fullest potential. 256k uploads is not to the networks fullest potential.
     
  4. harlenm

    harlenm Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    148
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010

    Dec 18, 2010
    148
    7
    36
    Nope, your still wrong, your confusing bytes and bits. Throughput is always measured in bits. A 1mbps upload speed is actually 125,000 bytes per second, so 4 seconds for every megabyte of data. To upload a 4.5 Meg file as you mentioned in 5 seconds would require an 8mbps upload speed.
     
  5. Allenfx

    Allenfx Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    340
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011

    Jan 6, 2011
    340
    48
    43
    SouthEast
    Sigh....

    I think i see the problem.

    You expect everything to work at its peak theoretical bandwith all the time while i take into account things like network traffic, signal strength, etc and realize that the peak theoretical is RARELY actually achieved with any device ever. There will be spikes that get "into the neighborhood" with dips that are just down right horrible.. Thats the nature of wireless cell phones. Its also the nature of a BRAND new network thats barely even completed/functioning. Frankly id be SUPRISED if it were any other way?

    Regarding the picture upload time jumping from 5 seconds to 20 something seconds (based on upload being measured in bits not bytes) above, i still don't think people usually send the picture files at that setting or send that many at once..

    Edit: On that note i think the "upload speeds do not matter as much as you are claiming" back and forth argument has fully been explored. Not much else to say.
     
  6. harlenm

    harlenm Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    148
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010

    Dec 18, 2010
    148
    7
    36
    Exactly, sigh. New network, blah blah.

    I'll take my 1200kbps upload and you can have your 256kbps.
     
  7. Allenfx

    Allenfx Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    340
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011

    Jan 6, 2011
    340
    48
    43
    SouthEast
    I do not think it will stay at 256kps but lets have this argument again next year when AT&T rolls out its LTE network as well (it's been fun). LOL

    I agree there may be a few users "impatiently" waiting on something to upload at those speeds but i think its been exaggerated here somewhat.
     
  8. Loiselle

    Loiselle Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    233
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011

    Seriously? If you guys wanna continue this, take it to PM's. This is the review/preview area. Not the Bandwidth/Network/Bits vs. Bytes area.
     
  9. harlenm

    harlenm Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    148
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010

    Dec 18, 2010
    148
    7
    36
    I don't think it will stay at those speeds either, but it is proven that att disables faster upload speeds in all phones except for the iPhone.

    Upload speeds are important to many users, and there is a reason why tmobile's are 1-2mbps, sprint's are 2-3mbps, and Verizon's lte even higher.

    Att cannot compete unless they remove the cap and give the phones full access to their network.
     
  10. Blanco720

    Blanco720 Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    364
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011

    Jan 14, 2011
    364
    23
    38
    Northern Virginia
    custom roms can allow hsupa, correct?
     
  11. emuneee

    emuneee Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    267
    Joined:
    May 10, 2010

    May 10, 2010
    267
    31
    43
    Yep. Good news in particular for the Inspire 4G because its based on the Desire HD. I'm sure you'll be able to pull the modem from that and enable HSUPA on the Inspire.
     
  12. MarcMaiden

    MarcMaiden Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    113
    Posts:
    590
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010

    Jan 13, 2010
    590
    201
    113
    Bay Area, ca
    Now if we port a modem from the desire, will that have hspa+ enabled as well? or is it completely dependent on the rom
     
  13. emuneee

    emuneee Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    267
    Joined:
    May 10, 2010

    May 10, 2010
    267
    31
    43
    I am over simplifying the process, but the Desire HD supports HSPA+ stock. So you could just port the stock ROM/modem and enable HSUPA.
     
  14. coreymcl

    coreymcl Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    58
    Posts:
    166
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009

    Oct 14, 2009
    166
    18
    58
    Regional Sales Manager
    DFW
    Somebody much smarter than me will have to write up a tutorial for the rest of us.
     
  15. MarcMaiden

    MarcMaiden Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    113
    Posts:
    590
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010

    Jan 13, 2010
    590
    201
    113
    Bay Area, ca
    Flashing to a new modem is pretty easy if its included in the rom. Flashing to a new modem by itself is where it gets tricky
     
  16. emuneee

    emuneee Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    267
    Joined:
    May 10, 2010

    May 10, 2010
    267
    31
    43
    For some reason I imagined to be easy to flash separately. On samsung devices you can flash the kernel, modem, and ROM all separately.

    Just glancing at this thread, it looks straightforward: The HTC Desire HD Radio Thread - xda-developers
     
  17. substance12

    substance12 Newbie
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    48
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2010

    Mar 18, 2010
    48
    2
    16
    I've never rooted before. Where on xda should I go to read up? From what i can tell, the rooting procedure is device specific and since this phone doesn't have a guide, where can I come up to speed?
     
  18. AndreaCristiano

    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    143
    Posts:
    4,012
    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2010

    Dec 12, 2010
    4,012
    222
    143
    NJ

    Desire hd
     
  19. thoffland

    thoffland Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    138
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011

    Feb 2, 2011
    138
    9
    36
    Network Administrator
    Arizona
  20. AndreaCristiano

    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    143
    Posts:
    4,012
    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2010

    Dec 12, 2010
    4,012
    222
    143
    NJ
    WTF is this garbage LOL
     
  21. YouGotRedOnYou

    YouGotRedOnYou Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    321
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011

    Jan 27, 2011
    321
    19
    38
    Baltimore
    Journalism at its finest *rolls eyes*
     
  22. Blanco720

    Blanco720 Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    364
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011

    Jan 14, 2011
    364
    23
    38
    Northern Virginia
    I posted to call him out a little. Van Blank's post =)
     
  23. MarcMaiden

    MarcMaiden Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    113
    Posts:
    590
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010

    Jan 13, 2010
    590
    201
    113
    Bay Area, ca
  24. AndreaCristiano

    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    143
    Posts:
    4,012
    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2010

    Dec 12, 2010
    4,012
    222
    143
    NJ
  25. YouGotRedOnYou

    YouGotRedOnYou Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    321
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011

    Jan 27, 2011
    321
    19
    38
    Baltimore

Share This Page

Loading...