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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by brian3d, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. CrimsonPride

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    no one read my post in the froyo thread? it appears the rumor that froyo will be skipped may be true. the nexus s uses a ext4 file system, pretty much what the voodoo lagfix does. it appears to me that they havent put out an update because they have been working on getting an ext4 file system working

    Gingerbread brings the ext4 file system to new devices | Android Central
     

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    Oh about ten minutes after NEVER... :(
     
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    Because when I look at the first page of this forum and see a thread titled "froyo discussion" and “gingerbread discussion" and I have a question about the two. My first instinct is to start a new thread and not put my question in either of those threads. Im beginning to think att will only release froyo when 22 million new froyo threads have been created world wide.
     
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    WOW that is a pretty nice soap box you got there. I am and can only speak for my self I am running a custom rom and as for all the issues you just described I have none of them or any for that matter.My phone runs better than it ever has. As for flashing that is an individuals decision all the roms come with the disclaimer "If you do not know what the hell you are doing then do not do it" It cannot be any clearer. So my ??? is how in any way are we doing any one in this forum a dis service by giving ideas and options and talking from our own experiences. As for making this forum look bad I don't even know where the hell that came from, that is just ******ed to even say anything like that.

    just my opinion man take it for what it is worth.:eek::rolleyes::eek::rolleyes:
     
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    On a side note, you guys make it seem so easy (flashing roms), but that shiite looks F'ing hard...
     
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    It is easy once you get an understanding of it, restoring all your apps/settings is the hard part imo.
     
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    I'll just wait on something legit, unhacked and hope for the best.
     
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    AT&T only sells the phones, they're not programmers and they're not Samsung.
     
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    Psst... you heard of Unix? Yeah that little OS that came out of at&t Bell Labs way back then? Yeah it's what GNU, Linux, OS X, android and many others were based on. Yep plenty of programmer and PhD types at at&t. I worked with many of them over the years.

    They write many of their apps and qualify their stuffs vigorously.
     
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    Your first instinct is wrong. ;)

    First thing to do is to read the existing threads, to see if your question(s) were already answered (they were, many times).

    Second thing (had your question not been answered) would be to use an existing thread since there were several on the topic. There are enough complaints as it is about dupe threads scrolling important topics off the first few pages. Less dupe threads = less scroll.

    Search is your friend. :)
     
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    Because most of the time, it's not with that disclaimer and these hacked-up ROMs are peddled, recommended and pushed onto newbies on this forum without any warning whatsoever, as if they are not only perfect and problem-free, but also the expected thing to do once you get the phone.

    I'm glad you've had no problems and always fully-educate every single person you recommend hack their phone with a beta ROM with full warnings and disclaimers. However, most people aren't like you.
     
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    and it worked!

    I began looking here to see what I need to do, but I was left really confused. flashing roms, and researching XDA developers site (which I wasted like an hour on). Posts saying it is very complex and dangerous...

    But low and behold, despite that it took me 90 mins to update to 2.2, and it's REALLY FREAKIN COOL. I got impatient on 2.2 yeah.


    This is what I did: (poor grammar -> 3 AM)
    1) Root. ~ 90 seconds
    Tons of instructions on this forum to do so, I just followed these instructions:
    http://androidforums.com/captivate-...unleash-beast-v0-1-easiest-way-root-more.html

    2) ~ 30 seconds
    Download Rom manager (free) from market on your phone, and press the first button "flash clockwork mod" button and choose samsung captivate.

    3) ~ 1 minute
    Download cognition rom from here: (you can use other ones, but I'm just showing what worked for me)
    Download Cognition!
    i picked v2.3b7 OC/UV

    4) ~ 10 seconds
    move rom to phone
    (connect using USB, drag and drop to internal sdcard, the .zip file! )

    5) ~ 5 seconds
    open Rom Manager, and click "install ROM from sdcard".
    hit "wipe data" and click okay.

    6) ~ 5 seconds
    use volume buttons to navigate to "reinstall packages" and hit phone's power button

    7) ~ 5 minutes
    wait.

    BY THE WAY: I am not an expert. I am probably the biggest noob on this forum so I won't be able to help if somehow you try this and it fails. I'm impatient and stupidly daring. This whole process could have taken a grand total of 8-10 minutes if I just knew what to do in between steps...

    So I am making this post for anyone else who wants to manually update their captivate without really knowing what to do. And for people who aren't to worried about "bricking" their phone.
     
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    Good job! I want to do this but I am too paranoid to try it.
     
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    You don't seem to factor in restoring apps and data - that takes some time, too! I'm looking to do the same thing, but with Assonance, if Froyo doesn't show up soon.
     
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    Interesting story. The positive side of this is that 25% of the upgrades are doing just fine. For the other 75% it'll give folks an opportunity to test their un-bricking skills. Canadians can move to the lower 48 where we're having NO problems with the Froyo update.
     
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    You jump first, Ann. I'll cheer you on and await a detailed report on the experience.

    Mine are still growing.
     
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    I had my phone for two whole days before I rooted & flashed Cognition 2.3b6. Been running fine ever since. Just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.

    /bluetooth & wifi had probs on stock ROM
    //both work perfect on Cognition
     
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    Friendly suggestion:

    When you have objections of this nature, it's best to press the Report button as mods don't look favorably upon public discourse. You'll likely get a PM with an explanation.

    Besides, consider yourself fortunate. In the past I've had a couple of my posts moved to the equivalent of All Things Siberian, with sub-forum views that never totalled more than single digits.
     
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    I'm still waiting, Jack, waiting, poking around and learning. I think it will be my New Year's Day project if the update hasn't happened by then; I'm a bit worried that the update will include all kinds of manipulations to prevent us from rooting - in which case I'm definitely going to flash.

    It got moved because there are too many Froyo/Captivate threads out there, they all belong in one place.
     
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    As you may know, z4root already accomplished this for Froyo. I'm confident that this won't be an issue moving forward even of the official release has modifications to this component of the code.
     
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    This customization first appeared for the Droid X, so far as I know (edit: could've been the Samsung Vibrant - that was months ago - but I think it was the DX), and I was impressed when I heard about it. It was spread around the dev community by someone who lurks in lots of forums. ;)

    Getting an ext file system working on any Android phone takes all of a few lines of script - as I recall maybe 6 lines or so of commands at the command prompt (Android equivalent of DOS window, for those that don't speak Linux). They can be wrapped into a little script command file, so that it's literally one command during the build process. And - these are publicly available steps.

    Time to get ext4 working - 10 minutes. Time to optimize virtual operations after that - one dev took nearly a week, working in his spare time. The fix may look protracted if you use Windows - it's incredibly trivial in Linux (native OS for Android, so no extra hoops to jump through).

    On Froyo.

    If this sort of thing fixes the lag problem some of you are reporting - well, ok. In that case, the underlying problem isn't being solved - it's just being alleviated. Same thing to most folks when their troubles go away, but not a real fix.

    For those confused by this thread - by popular demand and by our standard policy, several Froyo threads are now merged.

    We often do this when a topic gets hot for any device.
     
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    Well, if you follow the thread on XDA, some aren't so lucky with z4root after they've got Froyo. We'll see.....
     

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