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  1. RobiB10

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    I have 2 htc desire's 1 witch has been rooted and 1 not, the 1 rooted has clockwrkmod flashed up and running, (was not flashed by me)

    AUG 10 2010, 17:52:18

    AUG 10 2010,17:52:18

    I have backed up the rooted phone using recovery from hboot witch brings me to clockwork options then i selected backup/recover and backed up the full phone "or at least i think so", but?,, can i install or flash the entire image to my other phone wile it is not rooted. i tried to download clockworkmod from this site but needed a password and the link to offer me the password is not working (ie blank page), if any one can help me with a step by step link if this it is possible to recover my unrooted phone or has a link to clockworkmod ?!! "THANK YOU"

  2. nicka3200

    nicka3200 Android Expert

    I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve.

    Do you want both phones to be identical in terms of content including primary google account information or do you just want a similar set up?

    Do you have a partition on either sd card?

    It is possible to restore a back up from one phone to another but it is not as simple as just installing CWM on the second phone. You will need to go at least part of the way towards rooting your second phone. If you can clarify I will try to provide some guidance.
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  3. Hadron

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    As Nicka has said, you need to perform at least part of the rooting process before you can install CWM (which is a replacement for your phone's recovery program, rather than a normal android app, and has to be installed into a partition that you can't write to on an unrooted phone). Also as the second device is hardware revision PVT-4 it might not be compatible with the CWM version you have there - you need to check the "erase size" first.

    If you are interested in rooting the second phone, my advice would be to read this guide:http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ff-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-updated.html. This guide will tell you how to check whether CWM is compatible, but I would actually recommend installing 4Ext Touch recovery rather than CWM anyway - 4Ext can restore a backup made with CWM if that's what you really want.

    As Nicka has said, restoring the nandroid from one onto the other will copy everything, including the google account details - fine if you want both on the same account. And after restoring the nandroid the phone will be rooted, since "rooted" is a state of the ROM, and that restore will replace the ROM with a copy of the rooted one.
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  4. RobiB10

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    Hi there nicka3200, well wot i was thinking was to restore my unrooted phone with the image from the rooted and just reset the phone to set up another Google account ETC,
    I am just unsure if it was as simple as that but after reading the replies i see it ain't that simple so just to clarify, i am just trying to root the pvt4 desire phone. I am studying comptia a+ so am familier to some degree with systems, to be honest though i just feel a bit scared not to brick my phone as this is new ground for me but !!!WICKED!!!.
  5. Hadron

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    Yes, that would work - it would give you a rooted phone (because the nandroid would restore a rooted ROM), though in fact you have to do the "riskier" parts of the process in order to be able to restore the nandroid at the end.

    The revolutionary guide can seem intimidating just because of the number of steps and bits of information, but that's because it tries to cover all possibilities. If it helps, here's an overview of what it tells you to do:

    * set up software you'll need on your computer (revolutionary itself and fastboot)
    * download a recovery image (with some tests to perform if you want to use ClockWorkMod on a PVT-4 device), plus a patch to root the current ROM.
    * run revolutionary to gain S-Off (bypass the NAND security)
    * use fastboot to load your chosen recovery image (requires S-Off)
    * use the recovery to flash the patch that roots the ROM.

    Restoring the nandroid would replace that last step. However, that last step has very little risk, especially since you can take a nandroid backup once you've installed the recovery, before doing the last step. So it's really up to you whether you prefer to do that or just flash the root patch.

    Technically the "risky" bit is running revolutionary, since if that failed it could in principle brick the phone, while anythingthat could go wrong in the later stages could be fixed. However, I've never heard of this actually happening; I know they say revolutionary's still a beta, but it's very solid and well-tested.
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  6. nicka3200

    nicka3200 Android Expert

    The guide Hadron linked to above is really quite straight forward if you follow it methodically.

    To be honest once you have got as far as installing a recovery you might as well flash the superuser app onto the existing ROM. That way you will have Root but will not have lost any data that is currently on that phone. Should you choose to change the ROM later you can back up the existing apps & data with Titanium Back up from google play.
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  7. RobiB10

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    Hi HADRON and cheers again mate i have managed to run revalutionize (so to speak) my phone but when i go to cmd run and fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery-RA_2.0.1 is where i left the armonra file i get fastboot is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. do you know if there is a reason for this please.
  8. Hadron

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    Where did you install fastboot? Try cd'ing to that location before running the command.
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  9. RobiB10

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    1 more ? please hadron where is the best site to find the new releases of android i have found a beta version of ics but cant seem to find a direct link to jellybean i only seem to be getting reviews.

    This is probably me just beeing a tad THICK but i am a nooob eh ;) 1 day I shall be JEDI :)
  10. nicka3200

    nicka3200 Android Expert

    Custom ROMs are listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

    Most of the information you will need here onwards is in this guide http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html

    If you want a Jellybean ROM it won't fit onto the normal /system partition. You will need to create an ext partition on your sd card. Again there is a guide here http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html

    Feel free to keep asking questions. I can answer some but there isn't much Hadron doesn't know about Android.
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