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America - Y UR PEEPS B SO DUM?

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by ScorpDX, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. ScorpDX

    ScorpDX Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    I found this earlier and thought it was really interesting look at Americans. I realize it was written a couple months ago. It's rather long so go grab a drink before starting.

    America - Y UR PEEPS B SO DUM?
     

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  2. Snow_Fox

    Snow_Fox Android Expert

    Short answer.

    I personally feel like more of the world is like this than just America but, I would be bias. (and so would the rest of the world quite frankly).

    I do personally blame the war on drugs and the war on terrorism.

    These war on idea's have continuously created a "holier than thou" mentality and been the excuse for what is becoming a military policed state.
     
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  3. bigbadwulff

    bigbadwulff Android Expert

    We have a very dumb society and it is by design. Better wake up folks...
     
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  4. Knewz

    Knewz Android Expert

    Not dumb, just extremely lazy.....giving the appearance of being dumb. Our expectations for everything to be done for us is too high and quite frankly unhealthy.
     
  5. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra=

    I agree. A sense of entitlement seems to be ingrained in American society. Most are hard workers, but most also expect too much for their hard work, well beyond getting the job done and getting paid for doing that.
     
  6. Njcellgeek74

    Njcellgeek74 Well-Known Member

    It's a sad state of affairs when reality tv takes precidence over the thirst for knowledge. We will go the way of the Roman Empire and have only ourselves to blame.
     
  7. Hrethgir

    Hrethgir Android Expert

    As long as we get televised fights to the death before that, I'm OK with it.
     
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  8. shawn1224

    shawn1224 Ex CEO-DNPSEA foundation

    Red Hot Hammer meets Nail

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  9. Stuntman

    Stuntman Android Expert

    There is a lot of information out there and available to everyone. The hard part and the part that takes time and effort is picking out what is important and correct. Not everyone has the time and desire to really find out what is going on that is relavent. It is easier just to turn on the radio or TV and have some news caster tell you what they think/want you to hear about. It is also easy just to go to a popular web site and just read the topics of the day that is spoon fed to us.

    Getting quality information requires work even in today's information age. For some important subjects, I may occasionally spend more than a passing moment trying to verify something I've seen or heard. It has to be important to me because it does take an investment in time and effort. Sometimes, I just want/need to relax after getting home from work and the last thing I want to do is more work. Information is easy to come by. Good information is hard.
     
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  10. Outlaw71

    Outlaw71 Android Expert


    No, no, no... I'm dumb AND lazy thank you very much!






    ...oh wait, I'm Canadian. :thinking:
     
  11. Stuntman

    Stuntman Android Expert

    We're not lazy. We're just really laid back. :)
     
  12. CmdrBond

    CmdrBond Well-Known Member

    So laid back you are horizontal?
     
  13. JunBringer

    JunBringer Android Expert

    A lot of it is cultural. It's seen as cool to be a thug and/or unintelligent and those are the people who are reproducing in large numbers. Most successful intelligent folks don't have as many children, so if this doesn't change then things will get worse.
     
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  14. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Android Expert

    its the same everywhere - and people deny things to themselves, encouraged by lobbyists and politicians.
    this can be seen with things like Climate Change and property bubbles.
     
  15. jamor

    jamor Android Expert

    O beautiful for spacious skies,
    For amber waves of grain,
    For purple mountain majesties
    Above the fruited plain!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    O beautiful for pilgrim feet
    Whose stern impassioned stress
    A thoroughfare of freedom beat
    Across the wilderness!
    America! America!
    God mend thine every flaw,
    Confirm thy soul in self-control,
    Thy liberty in law!

    O beautiful for heroes proved
    In liberating strife.
    Who more than self their country loved
    And mercy more than life!
    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine
    Till all success be nobleness
    And every gain divine!

    O beautiful for patriot dream
    That sees beyond the years
    Thine alabaster cities gleam
    Undimmed by human tears!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    O beautiful for halcyon skies,
    For amber waves of grain,
    For purple mountain majesties
    Above the enameled plain!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till souls wax fair as earth and air
    And music-hearted sea!

    O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
    Whose stem impassioned stress
    A thoroughfare for freedom beat
    Across the wilderness!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till paths be wrought through
    wilds of thought
    By pilgrim foot and knee!

    O beautiful for glory-tale
    Of liberating strife
    When once and twice,
    for man's avail
    Men lavished precious life!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till selfish gain no longer stain
    The banner of the free!

    O beautiful for patriot dream
    That sees beyond the years
    Thine alabaster cities gleam
    Undimmed by human tears!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee
    Till nobler men keep once again
    Thy whiter jubilee!
     
  16. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch!

    I had to stop reading, how can somebody make good points then go off in the same stupidity they are saying is the problem with America. A perfect example, really, who owns the Huffington Post?

    Personally, I think the problem can be summed up with my favorite term for Americans, "Sheeple"! We stand by and allow all of what our government and big business does without standing up for our rights. If we stood up even half as much as the citizens of other countries this would be a much better place.
     
  17. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Actually, I learned by watching reality TV that Paris Hilton is once again single. This tells me I still have a shot.

    I mean, OMG... I woiuld just DIE to be her new BFF. It's like, what I was meant to do. I can totally do this, OMG, it is my time.

    Bob Hilton
     
  18. bluenova

    bluenova OK Computer

    I feel a debate coming on with the possibility of strong emotions, as such am going to move this over to P&CAs.
     
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  19. cipher6

    cipher6 Android Enthusiast

    I skimmed it, and this guy is an idiot... just as much of a "sheeple" as anything he's blabbing about.

    First, it lacks any cultural or historical perspective. You think average citizens in Roman or Greek times, or any other large civilization, were some well informed, self actualized, society of philosopher kings? No, large populations have always been somewhat "stupid." If you want to put it like that. In reality, day-to-day life, most people just don't care about the sociocultural intricacies of the civilization they live in. The majority of people since the dawn of time, just want to work, get paid, feed their family and enjoy the down time when they can. Thats, not some American malfunction, thats life as a human in a civilization. You can find writings of ancient historians and philosophers reporting the same things, through all time. Socrates talked about it so much they put him to death.

    Are things perfect? No, they never are. Will America last forever? No, nothing ever does.

    Lets look at some of his particular ******edness:

    This guy is so guilty of the insulated, biased, cultural blindness he's railing against. Development of less lethal ways to handle bad guys is some conspiracy to subjugate the American populous to the will of.... what exactly?

    Would he rather police just shoot dead threatening suspects? How many police states let suspects treated wrongly sue the authorities for millions of dollars?

    Libya is dropping bombs on protesters and won't let reporters leave their hotel... but the UN was about to put out a report on how wonderful Libya human rights was. Iran hangs rape victims. China executes more prisoners than anyone else in the world, and bills the family for the bullet. Think you can get the daily show, or this guys inane ramblings from inside China? If we're a police state, we must be the most ineffective police state in the history of civilization.

    Does this guy have any perception of what life is like outside Western democracies?

    We're a country of 300,000,000 people (out ranked only by China and India) living better than 99.9% of the planet... and this guy complains about it, like he's missing out on some better alternative.

    Even compare us to the rest of the western world, France, with only 65 million, seems like it has another riot every few months. They let old people die in nursing homes from heat waves, because overtime is illegal. Currently their prosecuting some drunk doofus for saying he likes Hitler... but its the US with the thought police?

    The UK (61 M) try going somewhere in London without being watched on CCTV. Don't like the service you get from your Doctor? Too bad, you can't fire him, the Government is the only business in town.

    Does this guy understand the complexity involved in maintaining a society this size at this level of comfort? And all done without some dictator or comisar calling all the shots and micromanaging society. Its a self sustaining system based on mutual agreement and rule of law... looking at human history thats really an amazing thing.


    The first part is right, the idea that government used to be more open and transparent, is totally false (and I don't know anyone that thinks that.) Government is more open and transparent today than ever. Can you call up the CIA and ask them for details on their secret operations? No. But we know more about what goes on in the halls of power today than ever before.

    And, where does he get this idea the 60's were some magical time? A bunch of stoned hippies blabbing about non-sense in between orgies? Seems to me, the hippies and actions in the 60's weren't much different than the tea parties of today, except in their ideology of preference. The hippy movement collapsed, because eventually everyone realized, existence takes work. You can't smoke pot and drop acid all day, and expect society to feed and cloth you.

    And this takes the cake... close to fascism. People rise up and violently attack the government... for what exactly? Because you don't like reality TV and NASCAR? Go to any grocery store, look at aisle upon aisle of cheap affordable food. Imagine taking some poor Egyptian (most of who live on 2$ a day) and putting him in there, he would be blown away. Can't afford it? The government will buy it for you. Wanna blow all your cash on crack or beer? The government will still buy your food.

    When is the last time anyone had a loved one kidnapped and held for ransom by drug cartels? Who here has had a loved one ran through a wood chipper, dumped in a garbage bag and dropped on their door step? You ever hear of anyone starving to death in the US?

    What exactly is the problem? The president won't take your phone calls? 40 hours a week is just too much? The police tazed the nut running around naked on PCP instead of shooting him in the head?

    Read some history, get some perspective. At no time, ever, in the history of humanity, has life been this easy and free... We sit at the pinnacle of human history, and bitch about it.

    The mere fact someone can rant like this guy, safe in his home with clean running water, a full refrigerator, electricity and internet, without having government goons kick in the door, should tell you something.


    Guys, and thinking like this, just make me soooo angry!
     
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  20. cjr72

    cjr72 Android Enthusiast

    ^^ Thanks for the review and saving my lazy American ass from having to read it.
     
  21. TheBrit

    TheBrit Android Expert

    True for just about any western democracy. They've started aspiring for this stuff in the middle east too. Here's hoping they get it. :)
     
  22. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch!

    Yeah, why couldn't you post this before I had to read the article.:D
     
  23. Gmash

    Gmash Extreme Android User

    Seen "Idiocracy"?
     
  24. Njcellgeek74

    Njcellgeek74 Well-Known Member


    Rofl, sarcasm ( I hope) at it's finest. :)
     
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