An armed society is a polite society

[Crude]

UK riots 2011: London and Birmingham people forced to strip naked in the street | Mail Online

Truth is, in riot conditions, you are on you're own. Police cannot help you. Never give up your right to keep and bare arms.

 

[LoyalServant]

I would agree.... but in some circles I would be called a terrorist for saying so.

If reports are to be believed... this person was assassinated in a cab.
I don't blame people for getting pissed, but I think their anger is misdirected.
Burning and looting shops in their town is not helping them.

 

[Isthmus]

If so how do you explain all of these:

List of incidents of civil unrest in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

also how do you explain well armed societies such as colombia, in which violence is pervasive?

 

[R3vel]

Well, with my local riot in full swing in Manchester, I have come across what can only be described as the lowest form of humanity. At least the students had a cause.

BBC News - Injured boy mugged during disturbances in London

 

[OutofDate1980]

Well, with my local riot in full swing in Manchester, I have come across what can only be described as the lowest form of humanity. At least the students had a cause.

BBC News - Injured boy mugged during disturbances in London

Humanity has a history demonstrating that it can go much lower, if properly organized.

 

[Steven58]

same topic.. merged. I live to serve.

 

[ElasticNinja]

Try defend yourselves against armed rioters

 

[tommy_ed]

I can say one thing, if that happened here, and i was carrying, I wouldn't be stripping naked in the street...the police aren't always going to be there, and even when they are, you cant always count on them.

the problem these days isnt that people don't have the ability to stand up to government when need be, it's that they won't. No on has the motivation or balls to stick up for their rights. just look at the TSA scanners, a direct violation of constitutional rights...

by the way... as for the polite society thing, i don't think any society (country) could be considered a "polite society"... when you have large numbers of people, there will always be conflict

 

[Crude]

Property is one thing. That's why I have insurance. If you tried to rob some one of their clothes in the US the way it currently exists, your victim may end you. And if not a bystander may do it for him. In the UK there is no reason to fear retaliation....as long as the police aren't in control.

I can say one thing, if that happened here, and i was carrying, I wouldn't be stripping naked in the street...the police aren't always going to be there, and even when they are, you cant always count on them.

the problem these days isnt that people don't have the ability to stand up to government when need be, it's that they won't. No on has the motivation or balls to stick up for their rights. just look at the TSA scanners, a direct violation of constitutional rights...

people just haven't been pushed enough...we're getting there though, give it some time.

by the way... as for the polite society thing, i don't think any society (country) could be considered a "polite society"... when you have large numbers of people, there will always be conflict

I think ( just my opinion) the original meaning of that phrase would be better stated as "...a respectful society" Politeness cannot be garnered with a firearm. Respect or fear on the other hand can.

 

[OutofDate1980]

the problem these days isnt that people don't have the ability to stand up to government when need be, it's that they won't.

Don't believe it's just restricted to just "these days". It may also be not able is more likely then "won't".

Watch what you say on Facebook because you can be fired for political speech. Most states are Right to Work = No Worker Rights, i.e., you exercise you right to peaceable assemble and seek redress, boss has a different view, out the door you go.

Difficult to stand up to government when your main concern is food & shelter.

 

[Frisco]

Just a reminder, if it were not for rioters and rebellion against authority, the United States would not exist.

We can condemn what we see on our news and YouTube videos, but are they capturing the things that really are at the heart of all this?

 

[Snedd]

What's happening now isn't about rebellion against authority. Its nothing to do with the original protest against (yet another) police shooting in London. Its just gangs out looting and mugging because they can. And arming people won't help matters, just make things worse.

These scumbags are just another symptom of a moral bankruptcy that's given us politicians merrily helping themselves to whatever they can get (the expenses scandal) and bankers running banks into the ground and then walking off with massive golden handshakes and pensions at the taxpayers expense. Is it any wonder that the thuggish elements of our society think its open season for criminal behaviour when those at the top set such bad examples and suffer little or no consequences.

 

[Frisco]

There was plenty of "scumbag" activity during the rebellions centuries ago in "the colonies" we now call the United States.

I think those things are peripheral to the central issues which start the whole thing. The criminal types, along with those just desperate for violent outlet to their pent up angers, sort of pollute the real reasons for the original actions. Then, those of us on the outside of it, tend to see it all as nothing more than thuggery. That's a mistake, in my opinion.

Clever reactions to such things seldom happen; it just becomes a war to restore the peace. American ghettos are full of survivors of those wars of the 60s (remember Watts, 1964?, etc).

 

[noah way]

What's happening now isn't about rebellion against authority. Its nothing to do with the original protest against (yet another) police shooting in London. Its just gangs out looting and mugging because they can. And arming people won't help matters, just make things worse.

These scumbags are just another symptom of a moral bankruptcy that's given us politicians merrily helping themselves to whatever they can get (the expenses scandal) and bankers running banks into the ground and then walking off with massive golden handshakes and pensions at the taxpayers expense. Is it any wonder that the thuggish elements of our society think its open season for criminal behaviour when those at the top set such bad examples and suffer little or no consequences.

By your definition everyone is a scumbag, except for those who sit at home and watch.

 

[ElasticNinja]

There was plenty of "scumbag" activity during the rebellions centuries ago in "the colonies" we now call the United States.

I think those things are peripheral to the central issues which start the whole thing. The criminal types, along with those just desperate for violent outlet to their pent up angers, sort of pollute the real reasons for the original actions. Then, those of us on the outside of it, tend to see it all as nothing more than thuggery. That's a mistake, in my opinion.

Clever reactions to such things seldom happen; it just becomes a war to restore the peace. American ghettos are full of survivors of those wars of the 60s (remember Watts, 1964?, etc).

In fact a large reason for he Boston Tea Party was that smugglers were annoyed that Official East India Company tea had been made cheaper then their smuggled Dutch tea

 

[Vihzel]

1/10 are rioting for the original cause, 2/10 are rioting using that original cause as an excuse to but are actually for other causes, 7/10 are rioting because they want to and loot while at it

... at least that's the impression I'm getting.

What really makes me mad is the destruction of private property and businesses owned by fellow citizens who invested valuable time and money into their businesses, which also employ a whole bunch of other citizens who are just trying to make a living. Also... threatening the lives of others. I read a CNN article where they set fire to an apartment building with people trapped inside. I wonder what would've happened if those people weren't able to escape.

 

[smudger2005]

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found this site. made me laugh like hell...

 

[tommy_ed]

Watch what you say on Facebook because you can be fired for political speech. Most states are Right to Work = No Worker Rights, i.e., you exercise you right to peaceable assemble and seek redress, boss has a different view, out the door you go.

are you referring to something i said? haha jw

 

[Snedd]

By your definition everyone is a scumbag, except for those who sit at home and watch.

I didn't actually make any definitions.
Also I didn't say that people who sit at home and watch can't be scumbags (some of them may be, I don't know).
May be you quoted the wrong post?

 

[OutofDate1980]

are you referring to something i said? haha jw

Only if you fail to think rightly, as I define.

 

[mikedt]

"An armed society is a polite society" .. hardly ... e.g. South Central, LA.

Two words.. Juvenile delinquency. An age old problem.

Will Adidas make a commercial from this?

 

[OutofDate1980]

Never give up your right to keep and bare arms.

Hey Teaparty, raise taxes to so we can get this in production ASAP. Every right thinking, armed to the gills American deserves only the latest and greatest.

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[Crude]

"An armed society is a polite society" .. hardly ... e.g. South Central, LA.

LA is a terrible example of an armed society.

 

[Crude]

Oh and Irony of ironies, I stumbled upon this little morsel....lol

If British shopkeepers had the right to bear arms, vicious thugs would think twice before looting – Telegraph Blogs

 

[ScottColbert]

Oh and Irony of ironies, I stumbled upon this little morsel....lol

If British shopkeepers had the right to bear arms, vicious thugs would think twice before looting