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General Android 4.4.1 - Imminent (ITS LIVE-post #23)

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  1. LoyalServant

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    The exchange/IMAP email bugs appear to be fixed.
    This was a big deal for me and a few of my users... So I'm pleased with that.

    Edit: this issue is NOT fixed.
    My battery was just eaten alive by the sync forever bug again.... Back to aqua mail.
     

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    I would also like to know how to side load and install 4.4. 1I am not rooted just regular stock and is there a drawback for side loading it if another upgrade comes out., Thank you
     
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    I'd use an all-in-one .exe, lots easier. You can find some on XDA which I use the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh.
     
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    They roll out updates gradually to gauge if any other bugs come to light to try to fix them before releasing the update to other phones so instead of wanting the update asap i am now happy to wait a few days and get less potential bugs.
     
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    Why haven't I gotten it yet on my Nexus 5? When I look for a new version it says it's up to date.
     
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    See the post above yours.
     
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    He was talking about other phones. The Nexus 5 should get it immediately. Why else should I even have a Nexus 5 if not for faster updates? If this is the way in which Google gives out it's updates, it won't be long until I look elsewhere.
     
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    A few days is minor in comparison with how android updates generally are. Outside of Nexus/GPE devices, there is exactly one other device line even on 4.4 and they haven't all received it either. Other popular models that HTC or Samsung make are still at least a month away from getting 4.4, if not longer due to carrier interference.
     
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    i buy nexus because i hate touchwiz/sense/what ever LG calls it.

    and just because Google gives the update to samsung to start rolling out the same time google rolls it out them self doesn't mean the S4 and Note 3 will get the updates the same time. Samsung first needs to ruin the update and make sure it works with Touch wiz, and then the carriers need to approve it.
     
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    Every carrier or manufacturer does it the same.

    The difference is waiting maybe a few weeks on a nexus or 6+ months on a non nexus
     
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    Assuming everything is running smoothly on the current version, I don't see what all the hostility is about from some end users. Waiting a few days/weeks is not the end of the world.
     
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    I am dissapointed. This is my first Nexus update and I have to wait for days, maybe weeks. This is completely stupid. How is this even possible? How can Apple roll out updates for all of it's devices on the same day, for every country, no matter the carrier ? I dunno, but things aren't as peachy as they seemed at firston Android.
     
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    I'm not sure he was talking about phones other than N5s. Regardless, the same concept applies. Not all N5s will get it the same day or even the same week.
     
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    It's also important to note that trying to download an Apple update on day 1 of its availability is often frustrating due to server overload from all the members trying to update their device. Downloads can be very slow or even hangup if not fail. This is the exact reason why Google does staged rollouts.
     
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    And there ARE manual methods if you want it now
     
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    A couple quick points:


    1. Even though Apple releases their updates to everyone at the same time, that doesn't mean everyone can update on day 1. You're either looking at a 4+ hour project with download speeds as if you were on dial up, or you're going to wait. Every single friend I have with an iPhone waited 2 weeks to update to IOS7 because of this.


    2. You have a choice with Android. You can update immediately by doing it manually, or you can wait for your place in line to get it OTA. Doing it manually will take you about the same amount of time as updating an iPhone (30 min, give or take) after the server backlog dies down, and you can do it on day 1. Waiting your place in line will go even faster, and the update will probably take 10 minutes start to finish once your turn comes around.


    The sky isn't falling. Google is just a little more practical than Apple in their methodology. If waiting a week or two is so distasteful that you'd rather go back to Apple, go ahead, and enjoy that 4+ hour wait on day 1 for the next IOS release.
     
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    I think you're expecting too much.My old Sony Z1 is still on 4.3 and my wifes S3 is still on 4.1.2.
     
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    lol this has to be a troll post.
     
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    So you read all of the news of previous Apple updates that went without any problems then?

    Thought not.
     
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    Good grief, the phone just came out less than 2 months ago, has the newest Android OS and is already rolling out an upgrade, and you're throwing a fit because you don't have it two days after the rollout begins?

    SMH.
     
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    Yes. The camera is too slow and I want the update. Is it really that bad to ask for such a thing? I didn't want to start a flame, but come on, I got the Nexus 5 to get the latest updates first, not to wait in line.
     
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    Smoke some of that good stuff they've got in Amsterdam and chill. It will come, calm down.

    Or learn to side load it.
     
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    Look, Google really doesn't care what hardware you use as long as you're using Google services. They sell Nexus phones basically at cost. So your threat to "look elsewhere" isn't likely to amount to much.

    Updates for Nexus phones are available before others, and if you are impatient, you can sideload them easily. The availability of update files and system images and the ability to download and install them are also selling points for the Nexus line.
     
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