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Android in serious trouble

Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by soundping, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. soundping

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    It seems likely that just about anything considered to be a modern computer or smartphone infringes on these same patents. We really need to revamp under what specific grounds patents are awarded. Some of them are just incredibly vague and ridiculous. Patents were created to protect people's ideas/hard work but have become something much different for the money grubbers in these modern times.
     
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    hmmm..... waiting to hear more
     
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    What has the patent office gotten themselves into these days?
     
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    This is my thinking exactly (which is why people are saying android is in trouble).
     
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    I fear the implications of this, not just for Android, but anyone who's made a smart phone or mobile OS.
     
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    It will be resolved. There is no way this will be allowed to harm Android / innovation.
     
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    Not without a lot of payoffs/settlements first, I suspect.
     
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    it'll be interesting to see when apple gets sued for the notification bar idea they took from android and the lock screen notifications they got from samsung's touchwiz. :rolleyes:

    sometimes i wonder if all the people running these corporations are still in high school...
     
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    Are those specific aspects patented/trademarked? I am not sure they are, which is why I ask.
     
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    I think the ITC has more bark than bite. Also IIRC these are preliminary findings.

    Also dont listen to any article that quotes Florian Mueller. The guy is suspected of being a paid shill for MicroSoft and he has a huge anti-android slant to everything he says.

    He is not a "patent expert" nor is he a technical expert, he's just a blogger and (imo) spammer.
     
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    I suspect this will lead to a phasing out of the Andoid OS over the next couple of years. If MS decides to lower their licensing fees for their WINphone OS in a competitive effort to hasten Google's defeat in the cell market it will simply be a matter of good business for cell phone manufacturers to migrate from Android to MS. Shareholders will demand it. These kinds of things happen all the time. Under the current circumstances, when my contract expires in two years I expect Android will be a dead OS. It's not like Android phones will suddenly stop working in December or stormtroopers sent from U.S. Customs are going to come looking for our Droids.


    If an employer has an employee who is costing him money and trouble and equally qualified applicant is available for immediate hire who do you think will win? Businesses don't have time for nonsense; they want what works to be trouble free and profitable.
     
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    I wouldn't go that far.
     
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    Microsoft is only interested in the profitability of Microsoft. The smartphone market is not a singular contest with a prize for the winner while the runners up fade into obscurity. The current major players, Android, Apple, RIM, Symbian and even MS to a lesser degree are all still jockeying for position. While one excels, the others catch up and if one overtakes another, they are still very much in the race.


    Obviously the brother-in-law.
     
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    The first patent seems to be on touch screens, as in no one but apple can use a touch screen. I might be wrong and I can't really be bothered reading the many hypotheses.
     
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    If I remember correctly there were originally 10 patents in question. As for the two this is just prelims and HTC can appeal. Even then it has to go to the actual trade commission and if they agree then it goes to negotiation or lawsuits. it could be a long time coming and it could go either way. I do think it is funny a few months ago Jobs talked about how serious this "theft" is when his whole career and fortune was derived from "theft". He must still be bitter that Gates did it better. :p
     
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    I suspect that if the judge finds for Apple in this matter it'll get reversed in a higher court!

    At first glance, the two listed patents are soo vague in what they describe that either could apply to almost any smartphone and a growing number of feature phones. To allow this patent to have that kind of impact would create potential for a serious antitrust issue against Apple. After all, if this is upheld, Apple could artificially control the smartphone/feature phone market by selectively suing phone manufacturers to reduce/eliminate their competition.
     
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    Yeh judges make their decisions and patents are infringed, so what? Money will change hands, people and corporations will be paid off. Happens all the time, hardly newsworthy.

    As if it makes any difference anyway. It's NOT the end of Android and nobody is in 'serious trouble'.
     
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    An ITC judge is not really a judge and htc can take this to a proper court if they want to. It looks to me like Apple wanted someone with "judge" in their name to make a "ruling" in order to scare everyone when said ruling doesn't really make any difference.
     
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    lunatic59, "Obviously the brother in-law." LOL
     
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    Gearu, it's not the touch screens per se, it's about how you interact with the touchscreen or, more accurately, how that interaction is interpreted by the OS.
     
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    HTC will be implementing a stock buy back of as much as 20 million of its shares and canceling up to 50% of those shares.

    Any of you MBAs know the implications of this?
     
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    cancelling shares???? after they buy them back?


    what does that mean... do tell.
     

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