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    hi im currently using an upod touch 5 running ios 9.2 i want to install an android os on this and then delete all the ios files, can someone please help me?
     

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    Don't think thats possible... I know its not what you wanted to hear, but I don't want you to waste your time.

    Sorry
     
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    why not?
     
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    Because you would need a version of Android (rom) specifically designed to work with all of the hardware components in the device and then you would need a way to properly install it.

    Of course, this would all hinge on the processor/gpu/ram even being powerful to run the Android os
     
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    The iPod Touch is Apple's proprietary hardware and it contains a lot of Apple-only components. Even if someone was able to reverse-engineer one enough to develop an Android ROM it would be really, really difficult to make things work while not crossing over some patent protected function. Apple's legal department would be all over it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Touch_(5th_generation)#Hardware
     
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    so how come if u google how to do it theres a bunch of how tos after jailbreaking it
     
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    There's been various open source projects porting Android to iPhones, like the original iPhone and 3G, and making them boot it. But if there's anything actually usable or not is another matter. This has been done, because things like the original iPhone's hardware are pretty well understood now. But if you got a recent iOS device, using Apple's own top secret stuff, no chance.
     
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    Apparently it is a thing... But it looks like it's basically a novelty

    http://lowendmac.com/2013/idroid-run-android-on-ios-hardware/

    Looks like this might be a matter of asking an iOS question on an Android forum...
     
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    Apple's attorneys can shout and scream all they like. I'm pretty sure it's not actually illegal to attempt to port Android or any other free open source OS to iOS devices. Nobody is going to jail for it. There's aspects of some Android devices that secret, proprietary, protected by patents and require reverse engineering probably for custom ROMs. but then Samsung or whatever's legal department hasn't tried to stop CyanogenMod & Co. :thumbsupdroid:

    IANAL
     
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    Being sentenced to jail is different than getting put out of business. But whatever, patents are burdensome and it's well established that patents protect big money while killing innovation. Unless you have a massive accumulation of disposable wealth, you won't be able to afford the legal costs to protect yourself from something like an Apple lawsuit. The now defunct Groklaw site was an incredible source for covering the patent disputes:
    http://groklaw.net/
    Samsung doesn't own Android, Google does, and Android the operating system is Open Source. Google apps and services however are proprietary and again, well protected by patents. CyanogenMod can use Android because it's unencumbered by any licensing issues, it's Open Source code. But you're ignoring the fact that any CyanogenMod ROM will not include any Google apps because that would violate Google's patents on its services. If you, the consumer, want to then install the Gapps package that's of course your option. Companies like Samsung can include Google apps in their products but that's only because they have to adhere to predetermined policies and agreements made with Google.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
     
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    If you are talking about putting said open source OS on an ios device, then their is nothing apple can do. You would have to wipe the apple OS off of the device (which you own presumably). Apple isn't going to start raining down lawsuits over it.
    You aren't changing their OS, you are completely replacing it. It would be a stretch for Apple to go into a court and cry because someone is running Android or any other OS on an apple device.
     
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    If it's that simple why aren't there dozens of Android ROMs available for Apple devices?
    You're looking at the matter from a consumer point of view where you hack away on your own stuff whenever you want, in your own home. Of course Apple lawyers aren't going to be knocking on people's doors, but once you make your reverse-engineered ROM available to the public, that's another issue.
     
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    Because those Roms simply don't run that we'll on the ios devices that have been done.

    Also, most Android folks could care less about iphones/ipads/ipods, and most ios sheep don't want Android on their apple products.
     
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    Also, any Android Rom would be made with a lynix kernel their for you would only be using the phones hardware and not any part of ios, so basically their isn't anything apple could really do.



    If one would make a custom OS based off of the ios kernel then apple could/would have something to say about it because ios is not open source.
     
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    OK, so maybe we just have to agree to disagree on this matter. Apple hardware is pretty enviable as far as I'm concerned. Running Linux on Apple laptops for example -- a robust, open OS on high end hardware. As for iPhones and iPads, they've been around longer and are more refined than Android phones and tablets, their limiting factor to some being that they only can run iOS.
     
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    Well the Mac OS on Apple laptops is based on BSD unix anyway, so it's all very familiar to anyone used to Linux, and as the internal architecture is pretty standard it's no great stretch to build actual Linux for it.

    Apple phones use their own processor architecture, with the software heavily optimised for that, and by Android standards have very limited RAM (2GB for the 6s, which is mid-range for Android these days, 1GB for the 6, and the iPods I expect to have less RAM than the phones if anything). Since iOS doesn't do true multitasking they can get away with better than Android. They also don't have an android-like bootloader, so you've the additional challenge of making the phone start your android OS when you boot it. Building Android so it will run on this hardware, which will involve reverse-engineering drivers and libraries for every component, is going to be a lot of work. And between the reverse engineering and the limited RAM the end result of this will be something that looks like an iPhone and performs worse than a budget android. And that's why you dont see a huge number of android ports for iOS devices. If you want that then it really would be easier to buy a fake iPhone as Mike suggests.
     
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    Imagine, buying a $800 phone, then make it run like a $300 one!

    Basically that's what will happen if you port Android to iPhone. So why bother? Just buy a $300 phone with a decent camera and save the $500.
     
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    is there no one here that knows how to do it?
     
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    I don't think their is anyone here who is interested in doing it.
     
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    I don't know myself. A quick web search revealed that there was a method that worked after a fashion running Android 2.3 on first generation iPod touches, but it did not work on later devices. That project seems to have been dead for about 5 years now, and I can't find any evidence that it has been done for more recent iDevices.

    For referece I have checked your device's specs. The iPod Touch 5th generation uses an Apple A5 processor, which is based on a 800 MHz dual core 800 ARM A9 processor, and includes 512 MB of RAM. To put that into perspective, the Galaxy S2 from 2011 was based on a 1.2 GHz dual-core A9 processor (though the SoC was different in many other respects), and 512 MB RAM is 2010 specifications for Android devices. So the iPod's specs are comparable to those of Android phones designed to run Gingerbread (Android 2.3, released at the end of 2010). Hence even if someone had a method I'd not get your hopes up too far, you aren't going to run Lollipop or Marshmallow on that hardware.
     
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    Get yourself an original iPhone or 3G, or an original iPod Touch.
     
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    how do i upgrade the hardware of my ipod touch
     
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    Buy a new one. Hardware of these devices can't be upgraded.
     
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    Hang on a minute... I'll check with the Official Apple Big Book of How to Upgrade Hardware...

    It appears that what you have to do is hand over a large amount of Money to them, and they'll sell you another one.
     
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