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Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by ReDDs3D, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. ReDDs3D

    ReDDs3D Member
    Thread Starter

    What the title says.

    Just looking for a multipurpose android, one that can play music really well, I'm somewhat of an audiophile and I really need good sound quality (with headphones) on the phone.

    It doesn't have to be the most powerful phone, and it doesn't have to be the brightest with some super AMOLED display.

    I would prefer a smaller screen, those gargantuan 4.3 inch tablet esque phones don't fit well with me...

    So far I was thinking the Xperia Ray or the Walkman Live, since they are both sony ericson, I figured there music quality should be good, but that's where I need your help.

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  2. WoodenAnts

    WoodenAnts Member

    Does the type of phone actually depend on audio quality? I love my music as well ( Beats headphones and .flac songs) but i never knew the phone would depend. On my Nexus S i use PowerAmp. Sounds pretty darn good to me.
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  3. itsallgood

    itsallgood Android Expert

    I have an Atrix 4G and the sound coming from the external speaker and using wired or wireless head phone, sounds really good. I have separate preset equalizer setting for the head phone jack and speaker.
  4. xmr405o

    xmr405o Android Expert

    I won't call myself an audiophile but IMO, using good third party headphones plus a music app with an adjustable EQ and high quality music files should be good. So I think you do not need to limit yourself to phones that are marketed to audio enthusiasts. Good sound output can be replicated easily by most of the phones available.
  5. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    Look for a cheap Galaxy S on ebay, they were great for audio quality.
  6. ReDDs3D

    ReDDs3D Member
    Thread Starter

    If this is true then that's great! Yeah, my music usually consists of FLAC, 320kbps MP3, and lossless wav's, and I'll probably using my sennheiser earbuds since they are more portable then my home headphones.

    But yeah I've used poweramp before, it was nice, but I just couldn't get used to it's ugly UI. :p , But that's not that big of a problem anyway.

    However the point stands that all of you have given me good suggestions, it's just those are those big android phones (Nexus S, Atrix 4G, etc.) the 4.3 inchers which I just don't wanna carry in my pocket. It'd be really nice if I could get a phone that was less than 4', and unlocked., and powerful enough to run some games, mostly SNES, GBA, and Genesis emulation :p

  7. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

  8. viber

    viber Android Enthusiast

    I like samsungs's music player in the GS2. Though I still use an iPod because they can be smaller and lighter and cheaper for working out with.

    Also iPods are far more durable than smartphones so they can be abused more without risk.
  9. ReDDs3D

    ReDDs3D Member
    Thread Starter

    Ok so after doing some reasearch I narrowed it my choices down.
    I have so far the Xperia Walkman, Xperia Ray, and the Xperia Mini Pro and the Galaxy Ace.

    All phones under 3.7 inches which is awesome and under my budget of $300. The Xperia ones, especially the walkman make for good music player, and the Xperia Mini Pro has a QWERTY keyboard...which is very tempting as I really prefer physical keyboards over touchscreens. However it seems the Ace and the Ray are the most powerful....

    I did some youtube and it seems the Mini Pro handles emulation well, plus can play GTA III :cool:

    So I am leaning towards that....but anymore feed back would be appriciated
  10. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    Galaxy Ace is phased out.

    Go for Galaxy W: 1.4Ghz proc, Adreno 205 GPU (same as Xperia Play), 3.7inch screen, DNSe hardware for audio quality enhancement. Its basically better than all 4 phones you listed as your choices.
  11. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    You can get a Sony Ericsson Live Walkman at around the same price as the 8GB iPod Touch. As for durable, the iPod Touch isn't really that durable. If you want durable, there's the Xperia Active (basically an Xperia Mini made more rugged). Would even withstand getting dunked in water.

    Far as I'm aware, no Galaxy W in the US. If he gets one, it would have to be int'l so no 3G support.
  12. Satires

    Satires Android Expert

    I would think any mid to high end phone would suit your needs. An operating system is an operating system. Just get a large capacity sd card.

    If you like wireless headphones, I recommend the Jaybird in ear stereo bluetooth headphones. They're pricy but D#MN they sound great and come with different fittings to keep em in your ears. Oh, and they're sweat proof and water resistent! The battery life is about 6 hours and the bass is out of this world. :D

    The quality of your music will only be as good as your headphones, wireless or wired.

    If you're a music fan like me, don't by cheap headphones for your android! Spend the money and get a great set. :)
  13. xmr405o

    xmr405o Android Expert

    Like these bad boys?

  14. schimm

    schimm Android Enthusiast

    I sold my iPod. Didn't see the point of keeping it.
  15. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    The Xperia Play (yes, the "PlayStation" phone), Xperia Ray ST18a/i, Xperia Mini Pro SK17a/i and Live Walkman WT19a/i all feature the same 1GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU, Adreno 205 GPU and 512MB RAM. The only differences are form factor, features (e.g. 8MP camera on Ray vs 5MP on Mini Pro) and screen size/resolution. That means you can expect these phones to perform more or less the same.

    In terms of audio quality, it appears the Live Walkman and Mini Pro are on par with each other with the Ray doing worse when headphones are attached (not that I've noticed any difference).

    The Galaxy Ace is the least powerful of the bunch. Any of the Sony Ericsson phones you mentioned will beat the Galaxy's Ace butt when it comes to performance.
  16. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    I stand corrected. The Galaxy W apparently did make its way to US shores as T-Mobile's Samsung Exhibit II 4G ($200 w/o contract). Alas, it didn't make its way unscathed. CPU dropped from 1.4GHz Snapdragon MSM8255T to 1GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 (same as the one found on the Play, Ray, Mini Pro and Live Walkman). The camera was also another casualty dropping down from 5MP to 3.2MP.

    Should have asked this first. What carrier will you be using and do you need 3G? The US versions of the Sony Ericsson phones all work with AT&T's 3G bands. The Exhibit II works on T-Mobile's 3G networks and would probably work with AT&T 3G in some areas (where 850MHz is used). Alas you'll need to unlock it.
  17. ReDDs3D

    ReDDs3D Member
    Thread Starter

    Uhh I am in Asia at the moment, going back to the US in a week or so and I was planning to pick up an unlocked smartphone. The carrier I plan to use is either China unicom (wCDMA/GSM) or China Telecom (GSM).

    I think I am going with the Xperia Mini Pro
    -Good music capibilites
    -Small screen ^__^
    -Good, or atleast ALRIGHT camera
    -Powerful (can run almost all modern games and emulate most systems perfectly)
    -Overclockable if need be.
    -QWERTY Keyboard

    I compared this to the Ray, Walkman, and R800i (Xperia Play)
    -The ray had subpar music quality, so I eliminated that
    -R800i was too big for my tastes
    -Walkman...no qwerty, but other than that it was fine..
  18. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    Gotcha. Was confused since the prices you seem to be quoting are in US$. Are phones cheaper in the US than in China?
  19. ReDDs3D

    ReDDs3D Member
    Thread Starter


    somewhat... It's just legit phones dont come with with best of warranties and are a bit more expensive. Plus other phones (not LEGALLY availible) are usually smuggled from HK or Japan, so they dont come with any sort of garuntee.

    America's just safer in short, and yes somewhat cheaper :p
  20. WoodenAnts

    WoodenAnts Member

    Side note would be to be wary of the processor on that cheap android you might pick up. I dont know the specs of any of the xperias, but if you get a low powered processor, i find that Poweramp, and presumably WinAmp (if you use that) will have trouble playing flac songs. My 1 gb processor sometimes stutters on parts. Of course my poor little phone is also tanking everything else running on its system but be warned!
    Good luck on your quest~!
  21. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    But the problem with bringing a phone in China to the US is that it may not work on 3G.
  22. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    Hmm, haven't noticed any issue with Poweramp and FLAC on any of my Xperias. The CPU on the 2011 Xperia are comparable in performance to the CPU on the Nexus S and Galaxy S. Curious, what phone are you using that's giving your stutters?

    OP is buying a phone in the US to bring to China. Just checked the carriers he will be using and one is GSM only (China Telecom) so that's covered. The other is 3G 2100 (China Unicom). Both the N. American (SK17a) and international (SK17i) models of the Xperia Mini Pro support the 2100 3G band.

    Xperia Mini Pro SK17a: 850 / 1900 / 2100
    Xperia Mini Pro SK17i: 900 / 2100
  23. WoodenAnts

    WoodenAnts Member

    My Nexus S. Every so often the player will just repeat a couple milliseconds of a song and then resume. It never happens on loud speaker, and it just did it to me then :p
    I contacted Poweramp about it, and they said it was a settings problem. My theory is that the rom I'm using is optimised for the current action. I think it was called BCF? Codename droid 1.5.5 bcf,If my memory serves me correctly. Basically the rom is designed to focus the CPU on the current app, and less on background apps. I should go find that other rom actually just to see if it is the problem.
  24. alextop30

    alextop30 Android Expert

    I listen to music a lot - my family actually gets annoyed because they think I want to ignore them and most of the time it is true.

    I got a 35 buck headset (bluetooth) from Walmart and Galaxy S2 - and let me just say I actually have bass in my headphones. The eq needed a little adjustment but that seems to be on everything.

    Also my headset allows me to answer phone calls so I am very satisfied - the headset if interested is the Arctic P311.

    Also I have an Ipod too but I chucked it a long time ago so I don't have to carry anything except my phone around. I am all about efficiency so I guess that is where my opinions come from but hope to have helped a little.
  25. rui-no-onna

    rui-no-onna Android Enthusiast

    No issues with a Nexus S here on stock Gingerbread. Hmm, still wondering whether I want to upgrade to ICS. Kinda don't want to lose USB Mass Storage support. MTP just doesn't work as well.
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