Having used and iphone, a year ago I switched over to a g1. Yeah looks where not there. But the keyboard made the diff. Ever since I have found many little things that made my day over th iphone. Recently I came over a biggie. I just wanted to see how fast the network speed was. So I searched for an online utility that compared historical speeds and used java. Many required you to download apps. The majority that don't requirede flash. So I stumbled upon: http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html And ran a 3g test. Latency average was 285ms and dosnload speed 2000 kbps. Hmm. Best iphone had to offer was 485ms. And something around 500 kbps. Would be nice to see one of you tape this and upload it to google. I'm sure apple fans would scream at there provider.