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  1. peterh337

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    I don't think there is a single one.

    The stock app is quite good but has various bugs e.g. disregards the configured storage location when you want to shoot RAW (which needs the Pro mode). Also the Pro mode is not saved when you exit the app.

    I have tried all the others I could find and none of them works fully.

    I would like a better quality app because the stock one produces oversharpened and oversaturated pics. I know a lot of people like that sort of thing but one gets bored with it after a while.
     

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    There's never been fully functional app other than stock OEM apps on samsung phone.

    Your only option is shooting RAW and process yourself. Oversharpening and oversaturated processing are system wide. So no matter what apps you use to take picture, it will be oversharpening and oversaturated like stock app or even worse(unless you shoot raw with that apps ofc).

    And I don't have your bug. My pro mode setting(iso, speed shutter, Wb, focus...etc) is always saved. So I don't know how to help you with that.

    Or if you mean the mode change back to Auto after exit the app then that's not a bug but an intended behavior.
    But you can create a camera mode shortcut by click on mode>more(top right)>add shortcut to homescreen.
     
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    On the S6, Camera FV5 worked really great. That was android 5. Android 6 seems to break a lot of stuff e.g. access to SD card (some apps can do it, some don't; I don't know why).

    Interesting info about the Pro mode shortcut! Yes that really works. Many thanks for that.

    However the button double-click still launches the default camera mode.

    "Oversharpening and oversaturated processing are system wide. So no matter what apps you use to take picture, it will be oversharpening and oversaturated like stock app or even worse(unless you shoot raw with that apps ofc)."

    I think this is what the camera API delivers and the camera app has no choice over it.

    I have just tried another app, Camera Pro (Mr Mayer's), whose default mode delivers exactly the same photo as the S7 stock app. And if I de-sharpen and de-saturate using its controls, I get what I would call corrupted images, with nasty jpeg artefacts. And this is exactly what happens with Camera FV5!

    But then all these camera apps are no more than just control panels for the camera API. These apps don't actually process the image, pixel by pixel. One of the developers told me this; he said it would be too slow otherwise for peoples' expectations. IOW, all the image adjustments are done by the OS. The camera app just provides the buttons :)

    So I think Samsung either have a bug in the API (so these extra controls, namely the unsharp mask level, don't actually work) or they have changed the API so the apps no longer issue the right parameters.

    Camera Pro was outstanding on the Nokia 808 which still totally beats the S6, S7, any Iphone... I got rid of it only because the browser options were all useless for some websites I needed to use. It's a pity that after all this time, 4 years, a £550 phone still doesn't come anywhere near the 808.

    But I think an app which does RAW and reduces it to around 10MP (like Camera Pro did on the 808) would deliver a much more natural result than the stock S7 app. I have seen the RAW images and with suitable photoshopping they come out good. The stock app stores the RAWs into an obscure location in internal memory, but a 3rd party app which implements RAW and the downsampling could then write the finished one to the SD card.
     
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    My RAW option has suddenly became greyed-out... lots of hits on google but no solution.
     
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    Amazing how almost nobody participates on these (countless) phone forums :)
     
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    Could be because nobody can give you an answer that you might want. Like there might not be such a third-party camera app for the S7, well not yet anyway. I don't have an S7 myself, and frankly I don't know anyone who does, not around here.

    I presume you've already searched high and low on Google Play.
     
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    You have to be on PRO mode to save as RAW. It even states this in the RAW option description text.
    Tap mode, then select PRO, go back into the options, and RAW will become enabled.


    High and low, but nowhere in between!
    :D
     
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    lol are you for real? No one cares, well apart from you, that is why. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true. Like i've said before you are expecting way too much from your smartphone cam, just use your DSLR and be done with it!
     
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    Yes - the RAW option is greyed out even though I am in Pro mode.

    Also I notice that video stabilisation is greyed out (and disabled) in Pro mode. It becomes usable in Auto mode, at the same video setting. There is some strange dependence here...

    Yes I have tried just about all apps from the app shop.
     
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    Camera FV5 state on their app shop description that Samsung crippled 3rd party apps, by limiting the image resolution available to them.

    That might well explain it.
     
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    Lightroom has a camera. I haven't tried it yet.
     
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    Not a good way to get help... ;)
     
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    Totally agree.

    Op maybe lost sight that we log onto forums in our private spare time to help and as importantly learn too.
     
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    There has to be a good reason why 3rd party camera apps suddenly dried up when the S7 came out.
     
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    Yea the stock app is perfectly adequate for what it needs to do.
     
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    Yes, stock app does just fine for me... I get pics like this one with it, as good as any dslr:
    [​IMG]

    and low light ones like this sunset with moon rising over Mt Adams, WA[​IMG]
     
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    Massively over-saturated pics, with totally obviously unreal colours :)

    If a DSLR produced pics like that it would be severely damaged.

    The fact that most phone camera users like oversaturated colours doesn't make things right objectively.

    Also the phone applies lots of unsharp mask sharpening to every pic. There doesn't seem to be a way to stop this. This is simply wrong; one should use unsharp mask (or any other sharpening) only at the final resolution e.g. when sized to the finished pixel size for a website, etc. One should never do sharpening on the original image because it trashes the picture when one is trying to extract a cropped section from it.

    One can get around this by using RAW and doing a fair bit of photoshopping on it, but the stock app disregards the image file destination setting and writes RAWs to internal storage, not to the SD card. The only way around this is to root the phone and use e.g. APPS2SD and its Folder Mount feature to transparently move each file to the SD card (I have that working great on a T705 4.4.2 tablet, but haven't rooted my S7 yet due to the possible bricking issue.

    The S6 produced better photos than the S7, except in low light where the S7 is very good.
     
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    Get an S6 then.
     
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    /Ditto! ;)

    BTW, over saturated huh? Obviously you've never been to Takhlakh Lake where there is no smog at all... crystal clear up there... the picture posted was EXACTLY what I saw with my eyes... the S7 Edge camera as been great for me and I've been a photographer most of my life.... probably long before many of you were born... I'm 64.
    http://1-4u-computer-graphics.com/moskovita-photography.htm
     
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    Lol but it's still not acceptable for Peter ;-)
     
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    What a lot of fanbois you lot are :)
     
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    Not at all I have an iPhone 6s plus as well. You just have smartphone cam OCD [emoji38]
     
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