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Discussion in 'Food and Beverage' started by olbriar, May 28, 2012.

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    Plus, when you can cook it, you can cook an entire rib roast / prime rib for what is costs to go out to eat for two. :D
     

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    Cheaper actually... And mine is better. :)

    I was very happy with my meatloaf. It took right at three hours to smoke. Very flavorful and tasty. My wife loved it. My youngest daughter was over as it was smoking. She hates meatloaf. She stepped out to see what was on the smoker. I told her it was bork loaf. She called it boarf. :) I couldn't talk her into staying for dinner though she admitted that it smelled good. I will be smoking boarf more often lol.
     
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    Unfortunately for me my postings here will be sadly infrequent. I pretty much work 6-7 days a week and mostly 10+ hours each day so I will be lucky to smoke or grill more than a few times a month. However, the wife IS starting to see the wisdom of a smoker that can be quickly started and requires very little attention :D.
    @olbriar , have you decided which smoker you like better yet? I like that your newer one doesn't go thru as much fuel
     
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    Grilled Meatloaf? :thinking:...

    WTF!

    You folks got some serious barbecue tech! :cool:
     
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    I well understand how life is limiting your smoking time. How important is employment anyway? :)

    Which smoker do I like best is a tough question. Both the Traeger and Green Mountain are fine smokers.

    I'm still using the Traeger at my cabin... it's as old as this thread. Though it's high end temp is not suitable for grilling, I'm sure that could be fixed. Other than that, it has seen it's way through countless smokes and still does the job. The cabinet is still in great physical shape and in my opinion is designed better for accessing meats in and out of. I'm not so sure that they offer a cabinet model anymore. I think the Traeger and GM both are similar in design now. My Traeger has the pellet hopper under the hood which takes away grill space. It is a cold surface and grease constantly collects on it's lid. The very next year after my purchase the hopper was moved outside of the cooking area which is far superior. I had trouble with the Traeger the second year of use which was addressed in short order by a Traeger repairman with zero cost to me. That spoke well for brand IMO.

    The Green Mountain is easy to use and has a superior start up and shut down cycle to that of the Traeger. It achieves a set temp quicker and does a better job at holding that temp. It consumes pellets at a lesser rate but not by leaps and bounds.
    It seems to be built well but it's not a cabinet model which adds a lot of strength. I'm just shy of a year's use so I can't speak for it's longevity. I had one alarming episode (posted in this thread) with the smoker but whatever was wrong it fixed itself.

    I'm not sure I'm comparing apples to apples here. Without looking, I'm certain that Traeger has improved their controller unit. My Traeger is pretty old tech. I bought the GM on a whim and did not do a comparison on the two brands and their features before buying. I'm not at all disappointed in my purchase but I can't say that I bought the best model available at the time. Both brands are top contenders / competitors in the mid range pellet smoker market. I'm betting their isn't much difference in what they offer today's consumer.

    When the time comes to replace my Traeger at the cabin I will do some serious shopping. I will buy either brand but I can't see shopping beyond them. It will be a comparison of price and features that will make my decision. I have total faith in both brands.

    I've never used a stick burner but I will say you will love the ease of a pellet smoker. A lazy man's tool, sure, but it will deliver a great product with little attention. You can set the temp and go about life while the smoker does it's thing. Spritz now and then... wrap time.. finish time... not much too it. They aren't the cheapest fuel source but it's a price I'm willing to pay for the ease of use.
     
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    I had the afternoon off so I smoked some shank steaks. It's basically a four hour cook so I had plenty of time. They always turn out so darn good.
     
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    @olbriar,
    My wife saw short ribs in cryopacs at Whole Foods. It's a national chain, so if they don't stock them regularly maybe you can have someone at the butcher counter order some for you.
     
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    Exciting information my friend, thanks. Google says I'm 13 miles from the nearest Whole Foods. I'm fairly certain that my wife has been to the store. I seem to recall her going there to buy some mumbo-jumbo thing she wanted to put in her health smoothie thing she makes. I will definitely check out their beef rib stock. :)
     
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    I was off work today and among the many tasks I had to catch up on, one was running to the market. I saw my butcher friend and told him about the possibility of getting some short ribs from Whole Foods. He told me if I was serious enough to drive clear across town for them, he'd see if he could get me some. duh, serious.. sheesh! He told me he thought he might could order them from a private vendor where he has an account. He figured they would not be cheap but he'd pass them along at his cost. I'll wait to see what he comes up with before I make the journey right through the heart of town in hopes Whole Foods has them.

    On another note, I was needing pellets. As you know, Wally World quit selling the B&B pellets or whatever they were last fall. I've been burning Green Mountain pellets since and they aren't bad. They burn slow enough and if you buy enough at a time the price is decent. Anyway, my son informed me that Wally World is again selling pellets but a different brand. I bought two 20 pound bags of apple and a 30 pound of a mix of apple, cheery, and maple. The bags are marketed under the name Pit Boss. The 20 pounders were under ten bucks and the 30 was less than 14... around 45 cents a pound. My son smoked a pork butt last weekend with the pellets and thought they were great. We'll see. The price is excellent.
     
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    Hell yeah at that price I'll give them a go. I'm long past warranty on my Traeger.
     
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    Another lead. I just went to BJ's, a regional version of Cosco or Sam's, and I saw some cut up in the meat counter. I asked if they had any cryopacs and scored at only $4.49 / lb. This is by far the lowest price I've found, and I don't mind the quantity as I'll seal a meal two racks for a later cook. The meat cutter was surprised I wanted them uncut, so maybe there is a lot of ignorance about them in the retail world.

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    I gave a quick net look and found the product but much more expensive than that found at WallyWorld. Maybe a special deal or another close out.. who knows but the price is sweet.
    Talking to my son last night he said he used less than 2/3 hopper on an eight hours butt. Burn rate is not shabby either.

    I will be close to Sams when I visit Whole foods. Neither are handy from my location. I have a Sams membership but not a Cosco. We don't have a BJ's but I'll give Sam's a look

    I'm betting on Whole Foods being my source. My son said their meat counter is beyond excellent. He thought their prices were a bit on the high side but variety and quality was to be had from one end of their counter to the other.

    I just called Whole Foods. They indeed have short ribs. The meat manager said they most always have them available frozen. :) I'm going to be cross town trackin. :)
    Thanks for the tip!!!
     
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    Whole Foods up here had them for $9.99 / lb, so I jumped when I was able to get them for $4.49. Less than half the price. Good luck.
     
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    I think I have the majority of my honey do's done. I'm getting ready to run up there now. :)
     
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    I just realized my son has a baseball game at 5. I guess I'll keep all 20# and smoke them up next weekend for Memorial Day. Good luck in your quest.
     
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    Whatever he said.
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    I've been smelling bbq's all day and you know what, I want one. I've got no garden in my flat though which kinda sucks. I suppose it saves on the gardening I guess :thinking:
     
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    Man that's a bummer. Nothing worse than smelling BBQ. I tell my mow clients that it's against my rules for them to BBQ while I'm mowing. The smell is a killer. I hope you can come up with something. No cooking out is just not right.

    My quest is still not accomplished. Whole foods had beef back ribs suitable for soup or something. Very little meat if any. I then ran to Sam's club and found they had no racks of short ribs. The ribs they had were cross cut into slices that looked like bone in bacon or something. I have no idea what you could do with it. At least neither establishment was busy so we took our time and looked about. It made for an interesting afternoon.
     
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    Whatever he said.
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    ^ Yeah I've thought of something but it never pans out. My flat's above a shop with a gated off courtyard so I could have the courtyard to myself. Random people will always walk through however many times I shut the gate though, someone always opens it again o_O
     
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    That is just baffling to me. It's a hunk of cow. It isn't like it is an ethnic or regional thing. I can find them pretty much anywhere around here for pretty short money, and you can't even find a decent rack to even try. I hope your butcher comes through for you, otherwise I'm going to figure out how to toss a rack in a foam cooler packed with dry ice and ship it your way.
     
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    Whatever he said.
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    ^ should there be a lot of meat on ribs? Or was it little in comparison to other ribs? To be honest if I order ribs I'd expect a rack to be about a stakes worth but I wouldn't expect a rack of stake :)
     
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    I'll come up with a rack or two eventually. Both establishments confirmed that they did indeed sell short ribs. Whole Foods told me they have them often but were sold out. The butcher at Sam's told me they almost always put a few racks out on Friday. He showed me where they were and where they would be. He then tells me that they don't last long. I think to myself.. why not stock more... sheesh! And why would you cut across a rack of ribs? What could those slices be good for? I'm baffled. But as I said, they do sell them. It's just a matter of getting there when they have them.

    Your offer was noble my friend. I'll get some short ribs here eventually.
     
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    Below was the first, last, and only other time I made beef short ribs. The pic doesn't do a good job of size. The plate they are on is about 15" (.33 meters??). 8 ribs and about 8 lbs precooked. That includes a lot of bone and fat. As you can see from the picture the meat retreated about an inch up each bone as they smoked, so there was a lot of fat reduction. So this is beef ribs, and a rack will be about 4 pounds of meat.

    Baby back (pork) will be about 1 pound of meat per rack, while St. Louis ribs (less trimmed than baby back) are about 1.5 lbs per rack.
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    Oh man those look so dang good. Steak on a stick!
     
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    Whatever he said.
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    Damn. American ribs are a lot different to here in England. Order a rack of ribs in England it's pretty much each rib with not that much meat on them. It melts in your mouth though. Side note. What the Hell you feeding your cows? :D

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