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Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by ocnbrze, Jul 29, 2019.

  1. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    look i'm all for the right to bear arms, but i'm tired of these shootings. i do not want to take your guns away, but we need to more control on who gets guns. we need strict control on where you can get it.

    my heart goes out to those terrorized and for those who lost someone at the Garlic Festival in Gilroy.

    BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE!!!!!!!

    i say death to the NRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     


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  2. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    if you have 15 min or so check out Jim Jefferies. i totally agree with him:
     
  3. PitCarver

    PitCarver Android Expert

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  4. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    YAY!!!!!!!!

    MORE GUN VIOLENCE

    my heart goes out to the folks in El Paso TX
     
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  5. Shotgun84

    Shotgun84 Extreme Android User

    I don't live in America so gun violence isn't a problem here but yeah I'm sick of it. It always ends up on the news over here and it always makes me wonder how someone could do that others. Honestly though I don't think banning guns would make any difference. Guns are mostly illegal in England (except farmers) so everyone just stabs each other instead. I suppose the only saving grace here is that a mass stabbing is rare. Lots of individual stabbings aren't much better though. Humanity will always find a way to self destruct.
     
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  6. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    man 20 dead and 40 injured......my heart goes out to el paso, texas and the victims, the victim's family, and the first responders as well.

    those numbers would be hard to do with just a knive. we need sensible gun laws where we restrict and make it hard for individuals to obtain guns. i'm not saying taking anything away from anyone.

    here's an idea:
    screw gun control....how about bullet control LOLOLOL
     
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  7. PitCarver

    PitCarver Android Expert

    What they should do is make a law against killing someone.
    Seems that criminals don't obey the laws, that are on the books now, what makes a reasonable person believe that they'll obey new ones.
     
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  8. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    isn't that already illegal?????
     
  9. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    WOW DAYTON OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm sorry you are pulled into this mess of gun violence.
     
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  10. Deleted User

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    Yeah I'm sick of it, so I can't imagine how you folks who live in the US feel about it.
     
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  11. rogerjhenn

    rogerjhenn Lurker

    Of course, isn't it strange how many of these mass shootings take place in gun free zones? It seems that tighter restrictions only make things worse. There's never been a gun control law that has been demonstrated to have made things better. And such laws only seem to 'work' if there was no need for them in the first place. Any place that had actual problems with guns only got worse after imposing strict gun control laws.
     
  12. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    i'm not saying take guns away from everyone. i'm saying having a stronger background check and red flag laws would help. it will never be 100% but it will help.

    and look at australia where they have probably the toughest gun laws in the world:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251

    i actually love guns. i am saving up for a Desert Eagle. but i just do not see a reason to own a semi automatic weapon. granted they are fun to shoot. but for those who claim they have one for security and protection.....i'm sorry but they are either lying or delusional.

    if we do away with the nra, i think gun laws would be very different here in the US. i really hope that organization collapses.
     
  13. PeakShale

    PeakShale Lurker

    Off topic but I agree. Gun fetishists are mentally ill and don't value the lives of others, including trophy animals they kill.

    A psychological term for gun worship is BIRGing, whicn entails substituting mechanical props for personal character.
     
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  14. PeakShale

    PeakShale Lurker

    "Gun free" zones are just a concept, and you can't cite many defenses against ambush shootings in crowds, e.g. Las Vegas. In such mayhem, the origin of the shooter is often unclear, so O.K. Corral hero fantasies rarely work. Too many bystanders would get hit.

    In other countries, gun control laws have definitely worked, which is exactly why the U.S. has so many MORE shootings. More guns in circulation means more chances for thieves to get them, too. And successful home defenses are much rarer than domestic shootings and suicides. Guns are a lot like pit bulls; fewer of them mean fewer incidents. When pit bulls weren't so popular their random violence had much less impact.
     
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  15. rogerjhenn

    rogerjhenn Lurker

    Purest delusion. The only places where strict gun laws have worked have been countries where the culture already made such laws unnecessary. Then you have countries like Brazil, with very strict gun laws, about 2/3 our population and typically twice as many gun homicides in a year as we do. The world is full of similar examples. Strict gun laws only 'work' if they are unnecessary in the first place.
     
  16. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!
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    ok i get it, i understand that in some places, the gun culture is so ingrained into the local norms. but what is so strict about having sensible gun laws. i mean better background checks will not hurt anyone who is looking to buy a gun. if you have a clean background, you are good. i like the idea of red flag laws as well.

    i think more companies should follow Colt. i'm glad they are not making the AR-15 available to the general public. i do not think that assault weapons should be allowed to be sold unless you are military.
     
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  17. PeakShale

    PeakShale Lurker

    So sayeth you of the Trump "fake news" culture. The evidence says the opposite. It's about easy accessibility in most cases. Planned mass shootings account for a small percentage of gun deaths, but they make headlines. That's where perceptions can get complex.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=gun+ownership+vs.+gun+deaths

    People who seek more guns in circulation are inclined to want to use them in a showdown fantasy as a self-fulfilling prophecy. I know the mentality, as I was briefly part of it long ago, then grew up. Professional military people are in the same racket, both causing and defending against wars. It goes well beyond guns to other weapons, many of which civilians can't own (2nd Amendment was never an absolute right).

    At least there was the 2019 bump stock ban, motivated by Paddock, but those should never have been legal.

    "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. The very prevention of war requires more faith, courage and resolution than are needed to prepare for war." (Albert you-know-who, circa 1946)
     
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