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Apple continuing to spread fals propaganda wrt to antennas.

Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by woofermazing, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. woofermazing

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  2. Brinkley1988

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    From totally unsupporting flash to the antennas problem, apple is leaving his customers, ignoring the feeling of the consumers, and that would be cause only one result, failed his customers.
     
  3. Drhyde

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    Who the hell holds their phone like that anyway? I've never had that kind of problem with my N1. I even tried holding it like those pictures show. My N1 dropped 1 bar. For a second it dropped to two bars and then immediately regained one bar. I call shenanigans on Apple.
     
  4. Markdek

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    And this has what to do w/ Android?
     
  5. Zervic119

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    Would someone be able to explain why, for the Droid X on that Apple page, the image showing 3 bars says "5:06" on the phone, while the image showing no bars says "5:05"? Shouldn't the times be the other way around, or did Apple dun goof'd with their, what I call, BS "test" of the Droid X?
     
  6. Tre Lawrence

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    I think it is freakin' hilarious...

    maybe I need to take this stuff more seriously, but till then, I cannot muster any rage.
     
  7. ArrowSmith

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    One more reason not to ever get an iPhone. Apple makes solid computers, but steer clear of the iPhone.
     
  8. Alieno

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    The video is interesting, although I just tried to recreate the results on my iphone 4 and was incapable of doing so, even after many many tries.

    I think that there are some lemon Iphone 4 floating around, probably in the tens of thousands (which would coincide with the numbers Apple released in relation to reception complaints and returns). The phone has sold more than 3+ million units and those who preorder it now face a 3+ week wait period at the minimum, so I personally don't believe that these problems being reported by some people are as widespread as we are made to believe, otherwise people wouldn't be happy with the phone.

    I can only speak for myself however, as an Iphone 4 owner, and say that if my iphone 4 had any problem I would return it immediately and if I believed it to be faulty or whatever then I wouldn't hesitate to change devices totally or even carriers.

    But perhaps I'm one of the lucky Iphone 4 owners without any problems? Who knows.
     
  9. ari-free

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    Every iPhone 4 has an exposed antenna that you can short just by touching it. That was by design.

    Then they start attacking everyone else that was responsible enough to insulate the antenna.
     
  10. Buddafinga

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    A dead giveaway was when Jobs couldn't even connect to a wifi network in his big razzle dazzle announcement the week before the phone was released!!
     
  11. Intervenient

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    Someone on the macrumors forums made a pretty good analogy with all this mess. Apple is the kid on in the class room who got caught playing his game boy in class, and instead of apologizing and putting it away, he shouts "Yeah, well he has his out too! And him! And him!"
     
  12. ari-free

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    Except that those kids were busy studying and working on extra credit problems.
     
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    iPhone and Att have me laughing. I was just reading some comments on the Beatweek article on iPhone 4 Misconceptions, and one was the Antenna. A few of the commenters stated that they "only dropped a few calls" since launch. I laugh, because I don't have that issue at all.
     
  14. Hrethgir

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    I think the biggest problems happen when you are in a mid-stregth signal area, then the attenuation problem can kill your reception. You might be in a strong signal area, where the problem doesn't manifest itself so easily, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. And don't kid yourself that people wouldn't be happy with the phone if the problem was more widespread, there are plenty of Apple fanboys out there who would still call it the best phone ever made even if they couldn't make a phone call with it. In fact, I heard a story about someone just like that, he had an iPhone 4, and always told everyone how great it was, but he had a second dumbphone he carried around to make and receive phonecalls because his iP4 couldn't hold a signal. But he still said it was the best phone out there. That story is just hear-say, though, I can't substantiate it. All I CAN say is that between Apples response to the problem and the unwillingness to give the consumer everything it wants, my next phone will probably be Android, and definitely NOT Apple.
     
  15. marefin

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    The BIGGEST problem with iPhone (and Apple in general) is the person who they have pushing everything. Steve Jobs is honestly the biggest issue Apple has. Apple is following the advice of a SALESMAN instead of an ENGINEER to create their products. Sure the phone looks pretty with the cut out edge on the side, but it sure as hell doesn't do you any good when you have to cover it up just to be able to make a phone call.

    Edit - I just want to reiterate, I really REALLY reaaaaaaally hate Steve Jobs from the very bottom of my heart. I wish him the worst in life and I'm generally a very nice person who doesn't hate people. If some guy went up and punched Steve Jobs in face in front of me I'd be pissed that guy beat me to it.
     
  16. Hrethgir

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    I'm with you 100%. I was rooting for his liver to win. Such a smug arrogant asshole. Even when I got my 3Gs, which at the time was the best phone on the market, I was still embarassed to own an Apple iPhone. So when I bought my cover, I made sure it was all black, covered the chrome trim around the front, and DEFINITELY did NOT have the hole in the back for the Apple logo to show through. Luckily now, with all the Android touchscreen phones popping up, my stealth disguise works even better, because from a glance, it could be any touchscreen phone! I just don't even want to be affiliated with that company or that man. Anyone know if Verizon would pay my ETF if I bailed AT&T and Apple to move to them?
     
  17. Blacklight82

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    LMAO @ Apple. :D
     
  18. ari-free

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    If they were just making iMacs, iPods and iPads, they wouldn't have these problems. They don't know how to make a phone. Microsoft had a similar problem. They knew WindowsWindowsWindows so they thought they could make a phone with Windows on it. It just doesn't work.
    The problem with Steve Jobs is that he is a narcissist.
     
  19. Baldycmw

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    First of all I am new here, but I had an iPhone4 for a week and my wife had it for a day. It is so pathetic the signal is so inconsistent. It doesn't matter if you have the bumper or not. It sucks. Ordered two Droid X's.
     
  20. RickInHouston

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    What's odd is my wife's 3GS is dropping calls like CRAZY after the iOS update. It's night and day from what it was before it's update. This definately makes it a software problem for her.

    I ended my AT&T / 3G contract last week.

    I wonder if this is really the start of a bad turn for apple. The 3G is so very slow with iOS and apple doesn't allow reverting to 3.1. So apple has all these customers that love their phone but 3G and 3GS but they have to make a decision - move up to a faulty phone, see if apple will work it out or jump ship.

    It was hard jumping ship for me for about 24 hours. Everything has an iphone connection now. After one day I can't believe that bothered me!

    I was out and talked with a guy who is a big iphone fan (has the 3GS). He said he's waiting until September (for whatever reason, he things there's going to be a major update to the OS). If that doesn't work out, he says he's going to have to do something else.
     
  21. bdmoore3704

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    You'd be at least a little narcissistic too, or at least have a high opinion of your own judgment, if you had as many good ideas as him and saw them come to fruition.
     
  22. jree

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    I completley agree but he is a delusional narcissist. His ego and his own self-enlightenment are causing him to not see that being nonchalant about a serious matter is turning the non-fanboys away from buying future products. I truly believe that he doesn't see his design as the cause or fault of things that have happend to the iphone4. I was a former iphone user, my wife is one, I was looking forward to purchasing an iphone4 for my wife, but this whole thing has turned me away from supporting anything that Steve Jobs has involvement with.

    The omen for this product should have been when he was introducing his product to the shareholders and it didn't connect to the wifi. The only iphone users that are not being blinded by Jobs' smoke and mirror trick are the ones that actually understand a product and how it should work, no matter how shiny or pretty it looks.

    I feel bad for the fanboys that are actually coming to Steve Jobs' defense instead of demanding better from a product that they ultimatley believe makes them better
     
  23. Alieno

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    The problem with what you're suggesting is that Apple's extraordinary sales records and customer satisfaction of their phones suggest otherwise. Especially in terms of the percent of the market that they control and sell phones in, they..I'll put it nicely..steamroll the competition. People wouldn't be buying the iphone if it wasn't a good product, and it has nothing to do with fanboyism. Because many many iphone users have never owned a ipod, ipad, or macbook, or mac, or anything else that Apple makes other than the iphone.

    I can use myself as an example. I'm an iphone 4 user, I've never had a mac or macbook (and never will get one, PC all the way), nor will I ever get an ipod (i dont listen to music) or an ipad (useless device imo). If I had any problem with my iphone 4, I would return it in a heartbeat. If I had any problem with my service, I'd change carriers just as quickly. I am not brand loyal and will go with whatever works, regardless of who makes it. For me, the Iphone works great and always has, and I prefer it over anything else in the market right now. But perhaps down the road something else will appeal to me, who knows. But to suggest that Apple doesn't know how to make phones is simply incorrect.

    A thought on Steve Jobs....:


    I don't understand what all the fuss is about Steve Jobs. Ya he's a narcissistic jerk, but if the product is good, then what does it matter?

    Because I also eat at McDonalds, I fly Delta Airlines, I drive a Mazda, I use Tylenol, and I have a Nintendo. What if the CEO's of McDonalds, Delta, Mazda, Tylenol and Nintendo were narcissistic jerks, should that prevent me from using those products? Who's to say that those CEOs' aren't narcissistic jerks? Out of the thousands and thousands of different name-brand products that we buy, I assure you, some of them are led by narcissistic jerks, but we don't seem to care about that.

    Does anyone here thoroughly research who the CEO of everything they buy, on the account that if the CEO is controlling narcissistic jerk then they won't buy it? That certainly sounds silly, because odds are pretty good that no one here does that. Except when it comes to Apple and it's CEO.

    There is definitely a double standard, when there shouldn't be.

    That's all. :)
     
  24. redvettez06

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    I don't hate Jobs personally but I do feel that Apple has let me down as a loyal customer.
     
  25. jree

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    No double standard. HE'S IN THE MEDIA WITH HIS ARROGANCE. He has shown no type of remorse or apathy to the thousands of customers that are experiencing problems with their phones. Instead he spent millions on smear campaigns against other phone makers and bumpers that people don't want.

    Its the fact that this design is his baby and he thought that he was being a revolutionist, he doesn't want to admit a problem. This is making him look like an ass when we all know there is a clear cut problem with a very expensive phone that can't do the main function of what a phone does, make and hold phone calls.

    1st it was AT&T's fault, now its an every phone loses signal issue, so his advice.... "Dont hold it like that" As a consumer, don't you want the phone to cater to your needs? Not the other way around. Don't you think thats its a little odd that they are pushing back the release date of the white iphone if there is nothing wrong with the design of this phone? Again, he is a delusional narcissist because he fails to even acknowledge the major fault in his "dream that came to fruition." Its ironic that one of his main selling points just so happens to be its Achilies heel.

    You may not have a problem with your phone but I can tell you, all my friends that have the I4 hate it for the same problem that Steve Jobs says doesn't exist. I've seen it first hand and experienced it for myself. My best friend took his back twice with the second occasion being a final return. So nobody can say to me that this is a random occurence.
     

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