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  1. TRS-80

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    I am seeing a lot of (allegedly) New In Box s5s on eBay for around $170.00. But where are they getting them? I do not think they are being made any longer.

    I might be willing to pay that, if I knew i would be getting an actual OEM charger, battery, etc. but there is no guarantee of that, as it seems fraud in claiming "OEM" in such things (cell phone batteries, chargers, parts) is rampant everywhere online including all major markets (Amazon, eBay, etc.). I have heard stories of fake "OEM" batteries, even when buying directly from Amazon themselves!

    Any thoughts would be welcome, as we still love our s5s (we have 3) although presently need to replace one now due to gf dropping hers and cracked screen (I am also debating whether or not to do the repair, although some of the same issues exist when trying to obtain "OEM" screen assemblies, even from reputable sources).

    I think these phones are still quite viable even today with their removable batteries and SD cards, and so I hope this topic garners some interest. I even came across stories that as recently as 8 months ago, the s5 is still the most popular Samsung smartphone in the US. So, it looks like I'm far from the only person who refuses to buy a phone without such features!

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    I have sent the following message (through eBay) to several of the sellers at the $170 price point:

    Only one of the sellers (mistyelectronics) came even close to addressing this point specifically in their FAQ or Questions About Item sections:

    All the rest just had the following standard response:

    FYI, these are SM-G900T for T-Mobile (and should work on Metro PCS, my carrier). There are also some more listed, anywhere from $180-300, but the $170 price point seems to have the most numbers available for sale at this time. Again, these are supposed to be New In Box, with all accessories.

    I will update this post later with results / replies (if I get any, lol).
     
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    That answer seems plausible. But the S5 will not have been manufactured for about 2.5 years now, so the battery in a box that's been sealed that long may not be perfect (batteries have a shelf life, and I'm not sure what it is for that type).
     
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    I've got several years and a lot of time on my S5, and hate the idea of giving it up. Been having issues with the screen not working when waking, so I contacted an eBay seller about the claims of the "New, In box" status.
    Their response...

    Hi there,
    These phones are new but come in an unsealed box as the phones must be removed from the box and initiated in order to be unlocked
    Thank you

    Hadron mentioned batteries, but I've got several that I currently rotate, so that's not an issue, but still haven't made the decision to take the chance.
     
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    Thanks for quick replies, guys.

    I have a couple thoughts. First, when buying (typically, used) phone off eBay, I generally don't like to buy from people (usually companies) selling hundreds of phones. You have no idea what you are really getting. Especially with a used phone, where the described condition of "good" (with little to no further detail) is highly subjective. I prefer to buy from an individual, selling a single phone, who has posted a number of good quality pictures of the exact, actual phone that you are buying. Instead of some meaningless stock photo. That's just sort of a personal preference of mine.

    Second, @Hadron , you make a good point about the battery. And I share your concerns. Even if it was a New Old Stock in box OEM phone, the battery probably would be degraded by now. Or they may have replaced them with who knows what. I recently went down that rabbit hole looking for a battery for one of our other s5s recently. There seems to be no way to tell what you are getting in this market, even straight from Amazon themselves people have been getting fakes apparently, much less anything off eBay. The fact that these people are allowed to list these phones as "New" should tell you everything you need to know about how much I trust eBay. Not that Amazon is any better, apparently. So what I ended up deciding to do was to buy an ANKER s5 battery. At least that's a brand that I know and trust. I figure that's better than taking chances with mystery "OEM" batteries that likely are nothing of the sort.

    So, when you put that all together, there seems to me to be no way to verify that these $170 phones are actually New Old Stock, and if they are, what sort of shape the batteries are in. Or if replacement batteries, what they are. Or what the chargers are, etc. So, what I think I will do is just find what looks like a good individual listing for a single phone in what looks to be good shape, and plan on maybe buying another ANKER replacement battery for it at some later date. Phones like that can be found much less that $170 and I don't think I see much reason to pay that premium. Especially since those $170 sellers seem to be essentially straight up lying (should be listed at best as New Old Stock)!

    As I mentioned in OP, I am not really interested in buying anything newer than an s5, they are still great phones (especially running Lineage OS, mine is plenty fast) and have replaceable battery and SD card. I will not buy a phone without those features. So, I'm right there with you on that one man. I love my s5 and plan on keeping it a while longer! Maybe until the Purism Librem 5 comes out! ;)
     
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    Here's a response from a follow-up question that I had with the eBay seller that I'm considering...

    Hi there,
    We understand your concern and thank you for considering us
    We have some information below about the phone that may help you make your decision:

    These phones are new but come in an unsealed box as the phones must be removed from the box and initiated in order to be unlocked
    The only items included in the box are: Original Charger & Data Cable, Battery, & Headset
    We do not recommend this phone for purely international use, Metro PCS, or Sprint
    The phone do not come with a Sim Card as they are unlocked phones you would need to obtain one from whichever carrier you plan to use this phone with
    In order to get the manufacturer warranty you need to purchase form an authorized Samsung retailer like Verizon or Best Buy. We recommend buyers purchase Assurant warranty through ebay.

    We hope this information was helpful for your eBay purchasing journey

    Anyone have and feedback on Assurant warranty service, from eBay?
     
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    Well...
    I was more or less forced, by the screen issue, to drop down the credit card and order me a " New" S5.
    Feedback and impressions when it comes in.
     
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    Update: I only received a couple replies from my several inquiries. One was quite snarky (mistyelectronics, perhaps I should publish it here for giggles) and one other who simply replied "read the ad."

    It appears to me that these sellers of "new" phones are quite simply just lying. At best they should be listing these as "New Old Stock" or "Refurbished" as they have not been manufactured for years.

    My advice is not to pay their premium and just find an honest individual seller of a single phone and deal with them directly. Hell, even if you pay the same or more for the phone, I would buy from someone who has it listed as "Used" or perhaps "Refurbished" or "New - Other" etc. as I believe very strongly not to reward businesses who lie by giving them my hard earned money, and I encourage everyone else to do the same!
     
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    No they aren't. But they might be "New" in box. Which means they sat around in a warehouse for a long while.
     
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    I'm not buying it. If you read the comments carefully, there are a couple negative ones where they say they checked the ESN and it showed history on a carrier. I just think it's more likely that most people buying these phones are simply not as exceedingly careful (autistic? OCD? lol) as I am, and don't know what to look for, and just rate 5 stars and off they go with their "new" phone, than that these are actually new phones. Also the comments about opening the boxes, etc., etc. and all the little details I have seen through this whole process.

    Maybe they are "new" been sitting on a shelf and so they are opening them to swap batteries though. Which would make them like I said "New Old Stock" or "New Other" and NOT "New." Also in that case, who knows what kind of batteries they are putting in, fakes are everywhere. Therefore I stand by my assertion that these people are simply lying. Occam's razor. Just because you/I/we are honest people, doesn't mean there aren't dishonest people out there, and especially where monetary gain is involved.

    I could be wrong though. I'm really curious to hear what @PitCarver reports back after he has received his, I hope he doesn't forget about us in this thread. ;)
     
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    They're not lying. Not all those folks use package re-sealers to make you think they've never been opened.
     
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    And what are you basing that opinion on? Faith in the good of your common man? I'm sorry but I remain unconvinced by the mountain of evidence and investigation you have provided.
     
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    A TV show called "Storage Wars".
    A missed shipment maybe?
    They've never been opened.
    What's not "New" about that?
     
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    Except most seem to have been opened. And if "New Old Stock" then battery issues (see above discussion). Anyway, I'm not going to re-hash the whole thread because you couldn't be bothered to read it fully and just decided to post your opinion, based on nothing.
     
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    Never fear, TRS-80, I haven't forgotten this thread.
    My New-Old S5 arrived yesterday, and I have to say not a minute too soon. My old S5 was clinging to life support and appears to have died last night.

    New? New old stock? I can't say. It looks to be in the exact same condition that the old one arrived in. Even Verizon had to open the old one to put in their SIM card.

    Phone arrived packaged in the standard Verizon S5 box. Phone, which still had the plastic covering the screen. Battery, battery cover, headset, Samsung charger and cable (still individually sealed in their own little bags) we're all present. So far, so good.

    I didn't rely on the included battery, so I popped in one of the spares, swapped the SIM card and the MSD card, and powered it on without issue. Set-up was painless...only issue I had was I couldn't transfer the data from the old one through the 'Set up nearby device" setting, however it restored most of my stuff through Google. I had made a backup of my contacts, and all of my personal stuff, copying it to the MSD card, which moved over with no problem.

    Only issues, so far is the font package that I had on my old phone isn't somehow supported on the new one. Also, some of the apps that I had are no longer available on the play store. Seems that the Package Disabler app has been removed...but it's been replaced with another which I had to cough up another $1.49 for.

    Still going through and getting it layed out, like I want, but overall, I'm pleased.
     
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    Seriously. If the box wasn't opened it's new.

    50 year old Baseball cards are new if you never opened the pack and ate the gum, right?
     
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    Some follow-up...

    Saturday the phone went through 5 Verizon security updates, which brought it up to the August 1st patch. I'm pretty certain that was the last one my old S5 received.
    Got an email, from Samsung, thanking me, and congratulating me on the purchase of my new phone. On a whim, I went to the registration link, and entered the information. Registration was denied because the "device is older than 3 years".

    Well, DUH. Who'd-a-thunk-it. LoL l
     
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The Samsung Galaxy S5 was announced in 2014 and was the company's first flagship of the year. The device featured a 5.1-inch display with a resolution of 1920 x 1080, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of storage, and a 16MP primary rear camera.

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