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Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by samjones3, Nov 1, 2021.

  1. samjones3

    samjones3 Newbie
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    So.... I bought a Pixel 6. Too large for my pants. Bought a OnePlus 9 Pro. Too big for my pants. Bought a Galaxy Fold. Thick as can be, and doesn't open with one hand.

    The iPhone13 Mini is the perfect size (5.4"). But I really want to stay on Android.

    What are my options?

    (And I need either SD card support or 512GB for a large music library. I'd get a used Pixel 3 and call it done, but there isn't enough storage.)
     



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  2. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    I know there's plenty of Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo phones that fit within your criteria, of a smaller screen size and removable micro-SD storage.
    You can check them here. https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?
     
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  3. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    Can you give your maximum size requirements as device dimensions? Screen diagonal isn't so useful because different shaped screens mean different sizes of phone for the same diagonal. Is the problem the height, the width, the weight? Sony's Xperia 5 series are the same width as the Pixel 3 but about a cm taller. The forthcoming Samsung s22 will be the same height as the Pixel 3 but a couple of mm wider (but about 5mm narrower than the Pixel 6). Both have 6.1" screens, just different aspect ratios (while a 6.1" 16:9 device would be wider than the Pixel 6). This is why I find screen diagonal a poor quantity to describe phone size, as it allows too much variation.

    There's no high spec Android phone as small as the iPhone 13 Mini, but according to consistent rumours over the last 6 months there won't be a 14 Mini, so it's likely that will only help for as long as you keep that phone.
     
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  4. kate

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    Don't see a single phone since 2018 that is under 5.7" (or about the size of an iPhone 13 mini) with 512GB.

    With an SD card these are about the size of an iPhone 13 mini:
    Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact from 2018
    Sharp Aquos R2 compact from 2019
    Little bigger:
    Samsung Galaxy A01 Core from 2020 but it's an Android Go phone
     
  5. samjones3

    samjones3 Newbie
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    I looked on that site.

    If you want 5G, there are ZERO options in a size within 15mm in length of an iPhone mini...
     
  6. samjones3

    samjones3 Newbie
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    Thanks!

    The Xperia5 is interesting, BUT it is 2 years old now....

    I would be OK with the Samsung s22, I think....

    I find the diagonal to be fine. The iPhone mini is the perfect size for a phone. It is 5.4" diag. I would be fine up to 5.8 or so, I think. Narrow is more important than short.

    Isn't it crazy that with all the makers of android phones, there isn't one of them specializing in a mini-derived form factor.

    I am going to see when the s22 is coming out.
     
  7. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    So either go with iPhone Mini, or buy trousers that have larger pockets. ;)

    I use a Samsung Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G, and it fits in my trousers and jeans pockets no problems. :)
     
  8. samjones3

    samjones3 Newbie
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    Thanks!

    Crazy that of all the android makers out there, no one is making something parallel to the iPhone mini.

    I am on a 4-5 year old Xperia now. Doing the whole migration to end up on a device that is already 2-3 years out of date is... maybe not so useful...

    From the specs I can see, the Samsung s22 , when it arrives, if the specs are as currently known (146 x 71) will be the closest thing.

    I am thinking of sending back the iphone and waiting for the s22. (crazy as that is... my old xperia is really messed up at this point)
     
  9. Hadron

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    The Xperia 5 is a series: there is also an Xperia 5 II from last year and an Xperia 5 III was released a couple of months ago. They are a good width (68mm) but rather tall. The big drawback is that Sony charge very high prices.

    I'm watching the s22 because my Pixel 2 is not going to last another year and the reasonable-sized options are very limited. Personally it's looking slightly wider than I'd prefer, but it's about as good as there is at the moment. The Xperia 5 III is a better width, but my problem there is the price (not that I can't afford it, but I don't believe that any phone justifies those prices and hence am reluctant to pay them). I'd consider the ASUS Xenfone 8, but it doesn't meet your storage requirements (and since ASUS have only released the 128GB version in the UK it doesn't meet mine either). Frankly I'd be happy with a mid-ranger, but there aren't many of those of a reasonable size either (the Xperia 10 III perhaps, but I'd prefer a 700 series processor to a 600 series).

    I think the problem is an old one: for most manufacturers this is a low-profit business, so they tend to only produce whatever single type of device they think sells best (and cut costs where they can). So over the last 14 years phones have become steadily more uniform in their design and, in recent years, even their size. And when they started making big phones they sold them at a premium, which mades them more attractive to the manufacturer and hence gave them the incentive to market that as the norm. But I suspect that one big factor here is people who don't own a computer and use their phone for everything: for people like that I can see screen size as being more important, whereas for me once the device is wider than about 66mm every increase is just an inconvenience. But as anyone who has watched the phone market for any time knows, it tends to provide a plethora of one type of device and to just ignore anyone with different preferences: and if you offer nothing else, in the end most people will buy what's available and so the sales losses are mitigated by the lack of any alternative.

    But what about the iPhone Mini? There is a consistent story that this line will end next year, but by the standards of anyone else it's actually been highly profitable (e.g. in Q1 2021 it was the 6th-highest revenue-generating phone in the world, with the Galaxy s21 Ultra, at number 5, the only non-Apple device above it). However it sells in smaller volumes and at lower prices than the other iPhone and iPhone Pro models, so unless all of the rumours are wrong it sounds like Apple have decided that they could make even more money if they only sold larger (and higher-margin) phones. And that really tells you about how the phone market works: it's not even about whether there is a profitable market for a type of device, if they think they will make more money by removing that device and telling its users they should like what they are given they will do so. And that is what gets us to where we are now.
     
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  10. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    It's a $ony :)

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  11. samjones3

    samjones3 Newbie
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    >> Samsung s22

    The s21 does not take an SD card, afaik.
    I believe the s22 will be the same?

    And only the ultra (the big one) has 512GB, right?
     
  12. samjones3

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    Thank you!
    I will check them out.


    No kidding.

    It is just crazy to me that so many companies are making basically the same phone. What is the point of an ecosystem of competition if they all just race to the bottom, and the consumer has no choices? (The only choice is..... an iPhone)
     
  13. samjones3

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    So my old, dying, phone is an Xperia. It is the size of an iPhone mini and I have loved it.

    Check out this paragraph from a review of the Xperia III:

    "It is also a little bit more 5G-friendly, working this time around with T-Mobile and Verizon bands. However, there is no mmWave support nor will it work on AT&T’s 5G offering."

    Guess what carrier I have been using?

    Yup.... AT&T... The iPhone works great on AT&T 5G....

    Man, what a crazy world.
     
  14. Hadron

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    You are almost certainly right about the lack of SD slot (s21 does not have it, it's likely s22 will not, though as it's an unreleased device you can't be certain). As for capacities, again you are correct for the s21, remains to be seen what the s22 capacities will be.

    It's easier for me as 256GB (or 128GB + microSD) will suffice.
     
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  15. Davdi

    Davdi Android Expert

    I'm with you @Hadron, my phone is 128GB + micro SD. Photos/Videos/Music go to micro SD. Apps/appdata stay in the 128GB internal storage. That works very well for me.
     
  16. samjones3

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    FWIW, here is the matrix I built:


    iPhone 12/13 mini: 5.4" 132mm x 64mm


    Pixel3 146 x 68 // workable size, insufficient storage


    samsung s21-5g - 161.5 x 75.6 // current model of galaxy at this writing


    samsung s22 146 x 71 // very close to the pixel3, which is a fine size. -- release date: Jan/Feb 2022


    Xperia 5-II: 158 x 68 // More than 1cm longer than Pixel3, otherwise very close to the truth
    • + microSDXC
    • Released: OCt 2020
    Xperia 5-III : 157 x 68 // More than 1cm longer than Pixel3, otherwise very close to the truth
    • + microSDXC
    • Released Oct 2021 // Available in US? Not clear?
    Xperia5 158 x 68 (2019)


    oneplus 9 pro: 163.2 mm x 73.6 mm // REALLY BIG. Maybe its better to leave phone in my bag and not carry it in pocket anymore?


     
  17. Hadron

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    Yeah, I have much the same table, except I think your specs for the S21 are actually for the S21+: the S21 is 151.7x71.2mm.

    To be honest I've considered changing platforms for the iPhone Mini just because of the size. But if Apple are dropping it next year it makes the hassle of a platform change less appealing (and I do find iOS limiting, even if some aspects have improved). But the sheer shortage of sensible-sized Android handsets has me wondering whether I can last until I can replace the phone with an AR headset and be done with the whole handheld device business (but even at my 4-5 year upgrade frequency that's at least 2 upgrade cycles away).
     
  18. samjones3

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    The iPhone mini, as device, ROCKS. I do not understand why OnePlus or Sony doesn't just make an android phone of the exact same physical dims. Everything about it rocks. The squared off edges. The thickness. The overall size.

    I ended up , in the end, with a Sony Xperia 5-III.

    It is simply the smallest current spec android phone I could find.

    It sucks.

    Why?
    • Because it is too darn long/tall.
    • Because the rounded edges make it slippery
    • It is too big for my pockets (If I put my feet up, the phone falls on the ground)
    • I can't make the funny side fingerprint reader function well

    But it is the best I can do right now, and I am sick of trying different phones every week. It even takes an SD card. So I now have a current spec android phone that is as small as I can find. (Of course, it lacks the 5G band my wireless carrier, AT&T, uses, so I have a brand new phone, in an area with lots of 5G towers, but do not have 5G on my phone. @#$@#)

    If I could have migrated my signal database to iPhone, I would be on the iPhone mini even though I hate being an Apple slave("customer").

    It is a total joke that that Android sphere can't offer something small.
     
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