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Root Are You Rooting?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by CrazyTechnoBoy, Apr 7, 2012.

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Rooting or not?

  1. Of course!

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  2. Nope!

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  3. I'll decide when I have it.

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  1. CrazyTechnoBoy

    CrazyTechnoBoy Well-Known Member
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    Many people like to keep their phones stock, but I like to have my phones rooted after getting used to the stock feeling.

    What about you guys, are you planning to root the phone when you guys get it? Why or why not?
     

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  2. Covert_Death

    Covert_Death Well-Known Member
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    i'll keep it stock for the first week or so to "break it in" and then im %99 sure that i will be rooting it. I know it's going to be a great phone but to me that just means even more DEV support, custom ROM's can only make it better in my opinion wether you like sense or stock you still have your options.
     
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  3. CriticalCritic

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    As far as I'm concerned, my phone needs to be rooted so I can have certain extra features.

    - Mybackup Pro / Titanium Backup for restoration of my app data from my current Evo (more than just loading the apps themselves)
    - Widgetlocker bypass of the 5second rule
    - Wifi tether
    - Possible (likely) improved battery life through various tweaks
    - Certain Tasker features
    - Of course the possibility of various ROMs and customizations if I get bored with stock.

    And probably some other things that I don't even realize require superuser permissions.
     
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  4. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood
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    Any phone I get will be rooted. The way i see it there's no reason not to.

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
     
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  5. themuffinman75

    themuffinman75 Well-Known Member
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    Same here, my phone needs to be rooted so I can run those apps that require root access. I may not flash a custom rom for several weeks but I have to be rooted ASAP!!!
     
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  6. Xtremedays

    Xtremedays Well-Known Member
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    Agreed. I am making the purchase, I want to be able to change it as I see fit. I don't want to be restricted to what THEY think I should have on the phone and what THEY think the phone should be allowed to do.
     
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  7. windsorclarenc

    windsorclarenc Well-Known Member
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    I plan on rooting mine the day someone posts up how. There are far too many benefits to being rooted to not root it.
     
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  8. Granite1

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    +1 ;)

    I don't think we'll be rooting it right off the bat though. A phone like this will receive overwhelming dev support, so unlocking with htcdev probably won't be required, if you're willing to wait.
    The big, big cheeses like TrevE will get together and develop a root tool and find an exploit.

    Any phone I have from here on out will be rooted one way or another. :D
     
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  9. novox77

    novox77 Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
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    My concern is that if HTC offers their version of an 'unlocked' bootloader, it gives devs less incentive to search for a full unlock exploit.

    That's what happened with the Evo 3D. At the time of release, HTC's stance was that they were going to continue to lock down bootloaders. The devs worked furiously to come up with a root exploit, which they did (Revolutionary). Shortly after Revolutionary came out, HTC caved due to public pressure and offered a bootloader unlock procedure. But to get it, you had to get an updated HBOOT that sealed the hole that Revolutionary was exploiting.

    This HTC unlock procedure was still kinda half-ass. It was confusing, and it made flashing stuff a lot more complex. People who rooted the homebrew way definitely had it better.

    But it was obvious that the devs weren't going to toil for an exploit on the new HBOOT since the HTC way did allow you to achieve all root functionality, albeit in a more painful way. A few people continued to hack at the new HBOOT, but not with the fervor of someone faced with an unrootable phone.

    So yeah, that's my concern with this new phone. I'd prefer a real unlock, not HTC's. But will we get the dev interest needed for a quick crack?
     
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  10. CriticalCritic

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    This thing WILL be rooted. Even if I have to plant it in the ground and water it myself.
     
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  11. Charlie Hustle

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    Yes it will be rooted. Mostly because of the games and apps that I don't want to redo all over again. If battery life is good, then i probably won't need a custom rom. Never really used wireless teather.
     
  12. suprmallet

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    Every touchscreen smartphone I've ever had I've hacked. I love to tinker and can't imagine a phone that does everything I'd want it to without a hack or root or jailbreak.

    Besides, I refuse to pay extra for tethering.
     
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  13. Covert_Death

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    I agree, if they offered a decent rate for tethering (POST-paid) then i'd consider paying it but $30 a month when i MAYBE tether 100mb is rediculous

    if they had something where 1mb = $0.01 and charged you month to month depending on how much you used the previous month... i'd pay that
     
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  14. swazedahustla

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    I don't think this is true. The dev's are going to work initially to get root "their" way regardless of whether or not HTC unlock method is compatible. The reason being that the HTC method didn't work well anyway. And HTC could always put something in the process that would keep you from ever getting true root w/S off whenever they wanted to. As was with the 3D, the dev's specifically told people DO NOT use HTC's method unless you wanted to risk losing root and not being able to get it back. The dev's will want to have complete control over the root process and they will make sure that the root process they come up with won't result in any funny business, like the htc method.
     
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  15. Sauske

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    Yes!!!! You can optimize your phone to the fullest! All you can do is make your phone better!
     
  16. Drew5150

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    I think the lte will be different.

    HTC dev should be available from the start. Why spend time trying to find a root method. And not just look for a way to get S-off?

    I mean no one will already be rooted like the 3vo. So there should be more interest or speed in getting S-off. I figure devs may just use HTC dev method for root and maybe just automate it and possibly include getting S-off all in one shot.
     
  17. Drew5150

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    And yes I will be rooting. What would be the fun in not rooting?
     
  18. nullspace

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    So with a non-removable battery, what does one do when problems arise like boot loops and such when you would usually do a battery pull?:thinking:
     
  19. EarlyMon

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    A button combination that ties directly to motherboard hardware reset.
     
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  20. novox77

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    S-OFF is implied when I talk about a root method.

    To others who seem more optimistic than me, that's fine. It's possible that if this phone is very popular, we'll see a big development community as well. It's just the Evo 3D track record is poor. People who bought the phone with HBOOT 1.5 from the factory had no choice but to use the HTC unlock cause the devs stopped looking for an exploit once HTC's method came out.

    As I recall, the 3D was a bit hard to crack. It took a few months. Not like some phones where a root exploit is found within days, sometimes even before official release.

    Would be great if el tevo is an easy crack. But I'm mentally prepared to accept the HTC method.
     
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  21. Covert_Death

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    the 3D did have a poor track record but i believe LTEVO will be better since it is the TRUE successor and all OG EVO owners are now eligible for upgrade (only primary numbers on accounts were eligible for 3D)

    i think there will be overwhelming support for this device. i'm not worried, the OG Evo was like this as well... dev support out the wazoo
     
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  22. v01rider

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    of course! its the only way to fly!
     
  23. toasty

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    I'll likely root it eventually, but probably not until I've had it stock for some time. Between ICS and Sense 4.0, it could well be that there may be enough upgrades to the stock experience that I won't feel compelled to root it. I haven't used Sense in a while, but I understand this new iteration is supposed to have a lot less bloat, so we'll have to see...
     
  24. emburybrett

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    I alway root but most times i dont go off stock. If I do its what i did on my Htc Inspire 4g and flashed an updated sense Rom. I use SetCPU, Rom Manager for back ups, and WiFi Tether.
     
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  25. Granite1

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    You've missed out on a whole world of tasty goodness called baked custom ROMS!!! :D

    The OG Evo had a great dev community, and the roms are still flowing....regularly!! :eek:

    I will make a suggestion right off the bat though. From my experience with Rom Manager on the OG evo, I wouldn't use it for anything. Boot into recovery manually and perform all of the functions from there. Rom Manager was buggy on the OG evo and caused a lot of unnecessary problems.
     

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