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General Are you sick of VZW lying to us? Don't we deserve 2.1 by now?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by smacky, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Bishop

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    One thing I've been wondering is if the OTA has to be accepted when the notification comes to the phone.

    Ideally I'd like to choose whether or not to even accept it at all, but I doubt of that's an option.

    The next choice I'd like to have is to at least wait for a week or so to see how others with 1.5 getting the 2.x OTA are doing.. bugs and fixes, etc.
     
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    Ahhhh Frisco...You are soooooo Cautious man :)
     
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    I swear I read somewhere on here that you could hold off on doing it, but it would just keep bugging you about it. But that's another good point...bugs and fixes, etc.
     
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    You can dismiss the update, but it will keep bugging you to do it.
     
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    Agreed, it's special to be cared about enough to be lied to.:p
     
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    I'm super pumped for 2.1, but I don't think Verizon or Google or HTC owes us anything. They are not obligated in any way to upgrade our phones (other than fix bugs). When you buy a PC with Windows XP on it, is the manufacturer required to upgrade you to Windows 7 for free? Hell no. You get what you get when you buy the phone, beyond that, if you want new stuff, buy a new phone. We should be very thankful we're getting a significant OS update at all, no matter how long it takes.
     
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    If you are *really* cared about, there are no lies. (Well maybe little, bitty, white ones like: "Oh honey, your new hairdo is just magnificent.")
     
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    No.

    Even if it's, "yes, I'm going overboard," that's ok, too. Everybody does that about some things. ;)

    There is a method to my madness; I am coming to a decision as to whether or not to keep the Eris or move on to another device if the update turns out to have some of the negative effects on the phone as I have seen posted repeatedly in here and at other forums.

    Having some time to regard the experiences of others with the OTA will aid me in my decision.
     
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    Couldn't you move to another device even if you have 2.1? Don't you think that you should have your own experiences rather than rely on others'?
     
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    Release dates do get missed, you know. Committing to a date before the work has been done (especially for something that involves coordinating the activities of three companies to do something for the first time), is not an exact science. Verizon has to walk a fine line between providing as much information as possible to satisfy their customers (who can easily go somewhere else if they feel dissatisfied), and not over-promising.

    If April 1 rolls around and I still have 1.5, I am going to feel bummed - not betrayed. I'd rather get a relatively defect-free product than see something rushed just so a "promise" can be kept.

    If I don't have a feeling that we're getting close to an OTA by then, I may consider moving to a different device - but I won't blame HTC or Verizon.

    By the way, when most of us made the decision to buy the Eris, wasn't the overall impression that the OS would not be upgraded? I don't think this gives Verizon and HTC free reign to fail to deliver 2.1 once they decided to release it to the Eris, but I think it's worth remembering that nothing that is happening now violates the original information that we used to decide to purchase this device.
     
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    Because they told us we were getting it.
     
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    Ouch...kill the caps...I'm still hungover from yesterday and you're shouting. :D
     
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    Right, I understand that. I just mean before they said anything. But yeah, once they tell us we're gonna get it, they pretty much have to. But I still don't think Verizon has ever officially announced that we're getting it, no matter what HTC says. Can anyone produce a link or document from Verizon that announces this and gives a time frame. I'm aware of HTC's twitter announcement and stuff like that.
     
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    Rely on others for what? What are you talking about?

    The bottom line, which I've repeated around the forums, is that 1.5 works fine for me and was the reason I went with the Eris. I like the Eris. I like it as it is. I don't know how to make it more clear; I have been posting these sentiments for three month now in here. One more time:

    I like the Eris as it is.

    I text, I make calls, I browse the internet, I check the weather, I take pictures, etc. All with no bugs and only one annoyance I can think of and that's the goofy character count placed in the text field blocking some of the text there.

    I see no need for this update for my phone. And, to repeat again, if it is as buggy as the leak is, I'm getting another device.

    Oh, in case I forgot to mention; I like the Eris as it is.
     
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    Agreed.

    Frisco, I'm not really sure how you feel about the Eris on 1.5, do you like it or not?
    :)
     
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    Calm down, I'm not attacking you. But from your previous post:

    "Having some time to regard the experiences of others with the OTA will aid me in my decision."

    What is not clear about that? You are relying on others' experience to aid or make your decision. All I suggested is you make your own judgments, that's all. In other posts of yours you said you were itching to go to 2.1 but wanted to wait. Other posts, if I recall correctly, you said if we didn't get OTA by the 1st you would seriously consider upgrading to the leak. Now you emphatically, if not almost viciously, say how you like your Eris 1.5 or something like that. I actually stopped reading the rant after a certain point, it was kind of disturbing.

    So what is really going on here? Why the attack?
     
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    Everybody in these forums is here to "regard the experiences of others," whether to answer a query or to get a take on other people's usage of the device.

    Generally, that is what device related forums are for.

    I will not (intentionally) wreck my phone if I see, by regarding the experiences of others, that an OTA does something like that.

    There is disagreement here about the leaked 2.1, many are fine with the bugs and some even say they have none; then we see some of those same people posting a problem that they say they now have to live with and everything else is ok.

    I have no such problems with 1.5.
     
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    Nobody in that looks very happy. Especially the one in the chair.
     
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    I think he already upgraded to leak 2.1.:eek:
     

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