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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by gitman, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    hey all, battery life on my attain is pretty horrendous. after charging up to 100%, i'm down to 20% after 12 hours. my atrix battery lasts at least 3 times longer. i've uninstalled most of the bloatware from my attain, but it hasn't really improved. when i look at battery usage, display is usually about 45% of it, even though the screen is off for the majority of those 12 hours. i will post up screenshots later.

    is anyone else having a similar experience?
     


    #1 gitman, Apr 13, 2012

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  2. Goochy

    Goochy Newbie

    Try turning off your 4G when you arent using it. 4G has always been a battery drain.
     
    #2 Goochy, Apr 13, 2012
  3. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    eh I'm not so sold on that being the problem. one thing i've noticed is that the amount of time the device is "awake" according to the battery usage stats seems a bit high.
     
    #3 gitman, Apr 13, 2012
  4. Goochy

    Goochy Newbie

    Well there was a claim on another thread that someone turned 4g off and the battery lasted a day and had ~65% remaining.

    I personally dont mind the battery life. If it came down to it, I'd go for a physical solution (double batterys or portable chargers). At least until a refined power plan emerges. I know the esteem gas a few...lucky bastards...lol
     
    #4 Goochy, Apr 13, 2012
  5. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    here's a couple screenshots, and a dump from BetterBatteryStats. this is after disabling a lot of the wakelock activity that was going on with latitude, which brought down the "awake" time by a lot.

    there was a good amount of netflix usage at the beginning, you can see the steep drop off during that time, and the device being active during that same time.

    i have the wifi sleep policy set to never, based on what i've heard that wifi uses less battery than mobile data. i'm going to run another test with the wifi sleep policy set to only when the screen is on. after that test, i'll give that greenpower app a try.

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    Code (Text):
    1.  
    2. ===================
    3. General Information
    4. ===================
    5. BetterBatteryStats version: 1.7.0.0
    6. Creation Date: 2012-04-14 19:04:32
    7. Statistic Type: (0) Since Charged
    8. Since 13 h 16 m 53 s
    9. VERSION.RELEASE: 2.3.6
    10. BRAND: samsung
    11. DEVICE: SCH-R920
    12. MANUFACTURER: samsung
    13. MODEL: SCH-R920
    14. RADIO: unknown
    15. BOOTLOADER: unknown
    16. FINGERPRINT: samsung/SCH-R920/SCH-R920:2.3.6/GINGERBREAD/EL03:user/release-keys
    17. HARDWARE: smdkc110
    18. ID: GINGERBREAD
    19. Rooted: true
    20. ===========
    21. Other Usage
    22. ===========
    23. Wifi On (): 13 h 16 m 53 s  (47813 s) Ratio: 100.0%
    24. Awake (): 3 h 55 m 1 s  (14101 s) Ratio: 29.5%
    25. Screen On (): 3 h 18 m 34 s  (11914 s) Ratio: 24.9%
    26. Phone On (): 7 m 34 s  (454 s) Ratio: 1.0%
    27. =========
    28. Wakelocks
    29. =========
    30. StartingAlertService (com.android.mms.Messaging): 38 m 30 s  (2310 s) Count:11 4.8%
    31. FacebookService (com.facebook.katana.Facebook): 7 m 39 s  (459 s) Count:48 1.0%
    32. Managewakelock: partial (com.handcent.nextsms.Handcent SMS): 4 m 9 s  (249 s) Count:128 0.5%
    33. show keyguard (Android System): 3 m 54 s  (234 s) Count:26 0.5%
    34. RILJ (Dialer): 2 m 46 s  (166 s) Count:747 0.3%
    35. AlarmManager (Android System): 2 m 28 s  (148 s) Count:3884 0.3%
    36. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN (Google Services): 1 m 32 s  (92 s) Count:14 0.2%
    37. ActivityManager-Launch (Android System): 1 m 13 s  (73 s) Count:155 0.2%
    38. DataConnection (Dialer): 60 s  (60 s) Count:81 0.1%
    39. sleep_broadcast (Android System): 52 s  (52 s) Count:409 0.1%
    40. SyncManagerHandleSyncAlarm (Android System): 47 s  (47 s) Count:210 0.1%
    41. *sync* (com.android.email.Email): 29 s  (29 s) Count:27 0.1%
    42. SMSDispatcher (Dialer): 24 s  (24 s) Count:11 0.1%
    43. StartingAlertService (com.handcent.nextsms.Handcent SMS): 21 s  (21 s) Count:119 0.0%
    44. CDMA (Dialer): 21 s  (21 s) Count:751 0.0%
    45. StartingPopupUtilsService (com.handcent.nextsms.Handcent SMS): 17 s  (17 s) Count:93 0.0%
    46. DEVMGR_Partial_WakeLock (Android System): 12 s  (12 s) Count:492 0.0%
    47. MAIL_SERVICE (com.android.email.Email): 11 s  (11 s) Count:144 0.0%
    48. SCREEN_FROZEN (Android System): 7 s  (7 s) Count:461 0.0%
    49. Checkin Service (Google Services): 7 s  (7 s) Count:440 0.0%
    50. GTALK_CONN (Google Services): 2 s  (2 s) Count:328 0.0%
    51. Event Log Service (Google Services): 2 s  (2 s) Count:46 0.0%
    52. GpsLocationProvider (Android System): 2 s  (2 s) Count:275 0.0%
    53. ActivityManager-Sleep (Android System): 2 s  (2 s) Count:3956 0.0%
    54. New message notification LCD on (com.android.mms.Messaging): 2 s  (2 s) Count:11 0.0%
    55. AlarmReceiver (com.sec.android.app.clockpackage.Clock): 2 s  (2 s) Count:20 0.0%
    56. Proximity Partial (Android System): 1 s  (1 s) Count:30 0.0%
    57. NotificationService (Android System): 1 s  (1 s) Count:1296 0.0%
    58. WifiService (Android System): 1 s  (1 s) Count:1252 0.0%
    59. keyguardWakeAndHandOff (Android System): 1 s  (1 s) Count:1350 0.0%
    60. ================
    61. Kernel Wakelocks
    62. ================
    63. "vbus_present" (): 45 m 12 s  (2712 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)2094/0/2094 5.4%
    64. "PowerManagerService" (): 10 m 38 s  (638 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)4555/0/0 1.3%
    65. "svnet" (): 6 m 34 s  (394 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)338/34/338 0.8%
    66. "dhd_wake_lock_link_dw_event" (): 5 m 36 s  (336 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)20/0/20 0.7%
    67. "radio-interface" (): 3 m 6 s  (186 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)383/0/0 0.4%
    68. "dhd_wake_lock" (): 2 m 16 s  (136 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)8710/56/8710 0.3%
    69. "alarm" (): 1 m 19 s  (79 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)3594/212/0 0.2%
    70. "dhd_dpc_thread" (): 1 m 11 s  (71 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)292510/0/0 0.1%
    71. "max8998-charger" (): 1 m 6 s  (66 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)2356/155/0 0.1%
    72. "alarm_rtc" (): 33 s  (33 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)101/0/0 0.1%
    73. "AudioOutLock" (): 24 s  (24 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)39/0/0 0.0%
    74. "event4-129" (): 20 s  (20 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)107/2/0 0.0%
    75. "deleted_wake_locks" (): 8 s  (8 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)19826/0/0 0.0%
    76. "prx_wake_lock" (): 8 s  (8 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)7/0/7 0.0%
    77. "event0-129" (): 3 s  (3 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)176/4/0 0.0%
    78. "sync_system" (): 2 s  (2 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)69/0/0 0.0%
    79. "mmc_delayed_work" (): 1 s  (1 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)1734/0/2 0.0%
    80. "event5-129" (): 1 s  (1 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)10/3/0 0.0%
    81. "gpio_input" (): 1 s  (1 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)152/3/0 0.0%
    82. "DPRAM_PWDOWN" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)2666/299/1 0.0%
    83. "efsd-interface" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)19/0/0 0.0%
    84. "KeyEvents" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)95818/0/0 0.0%
    85. "power-supply" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)2355/0/0 0.0%
    86. "dhd_watchdog_thread" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)25376/0/0 0.0%
    87. "ApmCommandThread" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)200/0/0 0.0%
    88. "client-interface" ():  (0 s) Cnt:(c/wc/ec)777/0/0 0.0%
    89. ======================
    90. Alarms (requires root)
    91. ======================
    92. android (): Wakeups: 122
    93.   Alarms: 16, Intent: com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindowManager.DELAYED_KEYGUARD
    94.   Alarms: 567, Intent: android.intent.action.TIME_TICK
    95.   Alarms: 77, Intent: com.android.server.ThrottleManager.action.POLL
    96.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.net.wifi.DHCP_RENEW
    97.   Alarms: 13, Intent: android.app.backup.intent.RUN
    98.   Alarms: 40, Intent: android.appwidget.action.APPWIDGET_UPDATE
    99.   Alarms: 52, Intent: android.content.syncmanager.SYNC_ALARM
    100.  
    101. com.android.email (): Wakeups: 98
    102.   Alarms: 54, Intent: com.android.email.intent.action.MAIL_SERVICE_WAKEUP
    103.  
    104. com.facebook.katana (): Wakeups: 75
    105.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.19
    106.   Alarms: 7, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.12
    107.   Alarms: 2, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.24
    108.   Alarms: 4, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.11
    109.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.14
    110.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.22
    111.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.13
    112.   Alarms: 2, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.16
    113.   Alarms: 2, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.28
    114.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.15
    115.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.26
    116.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.17
    117.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.9
    118.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.10
    119.   Alarms: 7, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.8
    120.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.5
    121.   Alarms: 13, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.4
    122.   Alarms: 3, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.20
    123.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.30
    124.   Alarms: 2, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.6
    125.   Alarms: 1, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.3
    126.   Alarms: 9, Intent: com.facebook.katana.service.2
    127.  
    128. com.google.android.gsf (): Wakeups: 76
    129.   Alarms: 10, Intent: com.google.android.intent.action.GTALK_RECONNECT
    130.   Alarms: 38, Intent: com.google.android.intent.action.GTALK_HEARTBEAT
    131.  
    132. com.zynga.words (): Wakeups: 60
    133.  
    134. com.google.android.apps.maps (): Wakeups: 26
    135.  
    136. com.handcent.nextsms (): Wakeups: 20
    137.  
    138. com.android.phone (): Wakeups: 16
    139.   Alarms: 5, Intent: com.android.internal.telephony.cdma-reconnect
    140.   Alarms: 8, Intent: android.intent.action.ACTION_MMSS_LTE_FLICKER_TIMER
    141.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.intent.action.ACTION_MMSS_BIP_SESSION_TIMER
    142.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.intent.action.ACTION_MMSS_LTE_BACKEND_TIMER
    143.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.intent.action.ACTION_MMSS_START_POWER_ON_OFF_DELAY_TIMER
    144.  
    145. net.jimblackler.newswidget (): Wakeups: 4
    146.  
    147. com.android.providers.calendar (): Wakeups: 4
    148.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.intent.action.EVENT_REMINDER
    149.   Alarms: 1, Intent: android.intent.action.EVENT_REMINDER
    150.   Alarms: 2, Intent: com.android.providers.calendar.SCHEDULE_ALARM
    151.  
     
    #5 gitman, Apr 14, 2012
  6. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    is anybody getting better battery life than what i posted above?
     
    #6 gitman, Apr 15, 2012
  7. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    Yea, I'm getting insanely better battery life than you are. I'm the one that made the claim about turning 4g off, and I stand by it.

    When I leave 4g on all day, my battery gets raped. When I turn it off when I don't use it, my battery hardly drops at all. Unplugged my phone at 6am, its 10:42 pm. I've only turned 4g on when I'm using it. Watched some YouTube, browsed, tapatalk etc., I'm at 69%.

    I just posted some screens from speed tests I did tonight, shows the time and battery remaining. I did 13 speed tests on 4g.

    Hate to break it to ya bro, 4g really is the culprit :(
     
    #7 ChiweN, Apr 15, 2012
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  8. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    but if the device is on wifi the whole time, how is the 4G even getting used? unless its sending or receiving MMS, its not even using data when its on wifi.

    before you disabled 4G, you were getting similar battery life?

    i read a review that timed it at 9 hours with moderate use. starting to think 13-15 hours isn't so bad...
     
    #8 gitman, Apr 16, 2012
  9. Havocx23

    Havocx23 Newbie

    Try Juice defender. if you get plus (i think its $1.99) you can have it control WiFi automatically as well as automatically toggling your 4g, using your wifi based on location, so it remembers where your hotspots are and turns it on and off for you as you teach it your locations. (gets more accurate with time) you could try turning down your brightness, screen time out, auto rotation, and turning off animations. all these things use battery.

    I found with juice defender I get about 30% more battery then stock. also because of the root I just did, im using CPU master to slow down my processor to 800mhz this really boosted my battery life too.

    I hope this helps!!
     
    #9 Havocx23, Apr 16, 2012
  10. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    Yeah, when I used to just leave 4g on all day, my battery life was similar to yours. However, if you are on wifi all day, you are right. The 4g shouldn't be active, that's a bit odd.
     
    #10 ChiweN, Apr 16, 2012
  11. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    tried it and it broke MMS. it seems that it would never turn on mobile data or it would try to force everything down wifi, i'm not sure. right now i'm trying greenpower premium.
     
    #11 gitman, Apr 16, 2012
  12. Hellion420

    Hellion420 Member

    it is most definitely the 4g, 4g is constantly sending data back and forth, to what im not sure but i do know it is(even 1x is sending data) using Any Cut, juice defender and using set cpu or cpu master will give you a substanial boost in battery life. Normally display takes up an average of 71% of battery, now with doing what i said, it took that down to a small 28%
     
    #12 Hellion420, Apr 16, 2012
  13. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    Yeah 4g is a data/battery hog. However using anycut to turn off 4g is sufficient to save battery life. Juice defender and underclocking is overkill IMO. Unplugged since 6 am.15 hours later I'm at 75 %, just by turning off 4g when I don't need it. :D
     
    #13 ChiweN, Apr 16, 2012
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  14. Hellion420

    Hellion420 Member

    lol When i underclocked to 800mhz, i litterally do not see a significant difference in speed, battery of course. and Juice defender helps alot out, espically if you like me, whos on my phone pretty much from when i wake up to when i go to bed
     
    #14 Hellion420, Apr 16, 2012
  15. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    I'm always on mine also, and like I said I get stellar battery life. I just don't think underclocking and JD is necessary. To each his own though.
     
    #15 ChiweN, Apr 17, 2012
  16. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    and just to confirm - ya'll are turning off 4G by going to the LTE Test app, right?
     
    #16 gitman, Apr 17, 2012
  17. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    Yep
     
    #17 ChiweN, Apr 17, 2012
  18. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    well, i made sure to turn off 4G. that, plus Greenpower premium, and i'm still at about 50% charge after 20 hours or so. very good, but very strange.:hmmmm:
     
    #18 gitman, Apr 19, 2012
  19. ChiweN

    ChiweN Android Expert

    Told ya :p
     
    #19 ChiweN, Apr 19, 2012
  20. gitman

    gitman Newbie
    Thread Starter

    latest usage graph

    [​IMG]
     
    #20 gitman, Apr 19, 2012
  21. confed

    confed Android Expert

    your wifi theory makes sense but if your wifi service is constantly searching to maintain that connection, it will be using up your battery. my wifi isnt very constant on my indulge and i dont see much improvement in batterry when leaving wifi on while at home.
     
    #21 confed, Apr 21, 2012
  22. Havocx23

    Havocx23 Newbie

    So juice defender was constantly giving me a hard time and not relly helping and have since disabled it... Im sticking to my underclock though because Im also using V6 supercharger and my phone is still tremendously fast. I couldn't figure out how to toggle my 4g with anycut till yesterday morning... haven't charged since and I'm still at 25% thanks alot chiwen!
     
    #22 Havocx23, Apr 26, 2012
  23. blkops187

    blkops187 Lurker

    how can you turn off 4g when you dont wana use it
     
    #23 blkops187, Apr 30, 2012
  24. Tokenpoke

    Tokenpoke Android Expert

    How I do it.

    Get a new launcher (I use launcher pro)
    long press the home screen and select "shortcuts"
    Select "activities"
    First "lte functionality test"

    Open the new shortcut and select turn off.

    To turn it back on select turn on and then volte settings. It will force close but don't worry. Wait two minutes for full 4g to come back on.
     
    #24 Tokenpoke, May 1, 2012
  25. AlexMiami

    AlexMiami Lurker

    Toke, a couple of questions..

    1) Do you use "Launcher Pro" and make it your default?- I downloaded "LP" but I am afraid to make it my default cause I could not figure out how to add the the Samsung Program Monitor widget.

    2) Do you know all or some of the settings of the LTE Functionality Test and what they do?" Mainly, I am more interested in "Attach" and "Detach" cause one time when I was scrolling through all of the options...I accidentally hit "detach" which kinda scared me and I thought "detach" does not seem like something good so I immediately hit "attach" but I don't know either one was on...now I don't know if that was wrong or right but now I find that sometimes overnight my 4G has gone to EV and when I try to turn off or on, it does nothing. It does not turn off at all, it just stays on the EV. I remember before it used to turn off and on the 4G. NOW, I have to reboot the whole phone to turn the 4G back on...

    Thanks in advance for any help, guys...:)
     
    #25 AlexMiami, May 3, 2012
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