Ok phandroid folks, I now am officially in the S3 world now...I got my S3 tonight just got it activated, and....GOOD NEWS!!! the phone has 4.1.2

So as quickly as I can so as to hinder and get rid of the update nag, I want to root if I am understanding what I've been reading about knox.

I'm kinda nervous since this is a new phone so while I'm knowledgable of rooting and roms and recoveries, being as this is a new phone and slightly different methods than my S2 is, I am asking just to double check what I have read to make doubly sure I understand things, so please don't mistake my questins for noob questions, more as precaution questions .


So first off, can I just root say with framaroot, then install like philz recovery then go from there? That should in itself disable the firmware update nag shouldn't it? If not I will proceed one step further and install a custom rom, and then go from that point.

Secondly I have gone to download mode and it seems to show as if it's the same screen look as my s2 has, not the knox look I have seen pics of, so that's would say it's knot knoxed yet, which is a good thing.

 

So does rooting alone make the update nag go away, or do I need to install a rom?

or

According to some threads I've seen to can move 1, or 2 files or freeze them, and it'll take care of the nag screen, but I think that was with the s4, and possibly other phones, but I did hwever find this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350 and was wondering what people think.

From what I've read even after root, the OTA nag screen still pops up.
I have also heard that it will eventually after so many dinals...it will auto update itself anyways anyone know about this?


I checked more into it, and it looks as if rooting alone does not kill the nag, so I need to get a rom on or else remove the nag with the link I posted.
I havn't tried either as my phone is at 43% right now so I'll post back when I get it done

Ok I'm stuck now.

I got CWM on, but nothing mounts, can't mount system, internal, sdcard, nothing, not a single thing mounts.

I know the card is good because I can use it with a normal boot IE: in touchwiz, and everything shows just fine, I just can't acess anything via cwm.

Any ideas would be very greatful becasue I'm now at a standstill and I hope the update doesn't knox me after all this effort I'm putting in.

 

That's fine, I never consider it talking down to me, you've been a huge help as I have ask questions alon g the way and am learning still.

I am indeed familiar with odin, used it quite a few times.
What I am up against now is I am looking for root methods for this particular phone "Boost Mobile SPH-L710" and so far have come up with nothing, everything followed to the letter I still don't get root.

So far I have tried CF-Auto-Root + Odin, I have tried cwm + odin, then rebooting to cwm and flashing super user, but can't because nothing mounts.

So right now I need root so I can at least get that far, then I need to get philz recovery on......but I can't even get root right now, and the most irritating part of it all. I am not sure what I am missing.

If I sound frustrated it's because I am, at the situation, not you or anyne else, it's just I am very familiar with odin, rooting, roms, etc....but for the life of me this seems to be a harder task than I had imagined, and I don't really think it should be, because I have sucesfully rooted and rom'd the following phones without any issues, it was rather simple to be honest.
Phones are as follows:
Prevail, Zte warp, Sequent, and Samsung S2 Epic 4g Touch. The last I have spent weeks upon weeks flashing and re-flashing roms, rooting and un-rooting, different methods of rooting via odin, mobile odin, and also as I said my preferred method via the recovery.

All 4 I have had multiple roms on, and used odin or mobile odin, and have also used my preferred method as it doesn't trow a triangle or trigger anything, and that is flashing via the recovery.

Again I wanna say I do appreciate the help I get, otherwise i wouldn't keep coming back .

So nw, how to root this badboy.

 

Wow, that easy? HA, who would have thought.....With the s2 I had to root the base rom I was on, say 4.1.2 which injected supersu already, THEN put a recovery on....I guess I was missing the supersu injection part via a recovery....I was always thinking you needed root first THEN a recovery lol.

Well that explains a lot now....I'm off to get this done, I shall report back.


YES we have root!!

Thankyou again for lending a helping hand.


I was doing a loopy out of order precess I guess, figured it would be similar to the s2, and I was wrong .

Now from here it should be easy, and bvtw I love philz recovery, WAY better than cwm.

Now to try out that link for removing the OTA...least I know the root process now and can if need be (hopefully not) but if need be I can start fresh again.

 

Yep, that's exactly how I did it too, and yeah it almost always goes in PDA slot....not sure I've ever seen it in another spot, except on RARE occasions, but it involves like kernel stuff if I remember....it's been a LONG while since I messed with the other slots. Kinda funny really because I learned about the un-ticking the auto restart from a video I watched earlier.....said it would reboot to the phone, and that wasn't what was needed.....what was needed it to get to recovery again to flash the superSU to the system. The best way to accomplish this is to un-tick that option of auto reboot, and shut down, then hold power + home button + vol up, and boot back into recovery manually. Other files can be pushed by injecting or pushing the apk files via a browser, then rebooting for it to take affect.


On a side note, (for those reading this thread) you can't place a zip file there.....most of the zips are meant for recovery flashing only.


Again thanks for all the help, I'd be stuck without it.

I always try my best to pass on knowledge, so maybe I can return the favor or pay it forward later down the road and hope I have in the past.


One last question, is there a way to reset the counter, the one in download mode?
I don't get a triangle with this phone so am assuming triangle away won't work.....but could be wrong.

Also does anyone have any suggested AOSP roms for this phone....I prefer aosp over most everything else, but have found that gps doesn't like to work correctly, namely the lock-on time, or the sound is extremely low volume, so I end up going back to touchwiz.

 

Very good.


Any idea on the counter?

 

Ok I'll tread carfully and research some before I do anything.

You don't know how happy I am right now........I'm rooted, with no OTA nag (btw it worked like a charm!) and I haven't even had the phone even 24 hrs yet lol!!!.

I'm in the process of downloading stock non-rooted 4.1.2 right now (just in case I need to return it for hardware issues.) that's why I was asking about the download mode counter reset, in hopes I could somehow reset it and they would never be the wiser to the rooting.
Also downloading cm 10.2......I'm ok with 4.4 (cm11), just not liking the whole "cannot set your starting home screen" sorta thing. You can set either right, middle or left, but if you have 6 screens like I do, and want the 4th screen as the main home screen, it can't be done in that scenario, it either sets it to 3 for middle and 6 for right.
I guess I'm just weird and have a different odd layout, I just use 6 screens, the 4th one being my main screen, meaning 2 on the right, and 3 on the left, with number 4 being center.

They are really close to breaking knox I think. So far they found out it IS a software thing, and not a hardware thing, because some sprint person reset the counter in back of their office for some person, so it's defiantly a software thing.....now if we could only get ahold of the magic machine we would be set .

 

Any chance of getting a link or a list of the modem versions/rom versions that go to what is it.
IE: MG2/MD7/MK5 are all JB, but what versions....I'm kinda anal about keeping stuff simple, so I'm makeing folders then placeing the files in that folder so I'll lable the folder as like ISC then a sub folder having the versions, then the files under that, or in the case of JB I'd have Jb/Mk5 4.3/(file here). So I'm looking for a list of the rom number = JB 4.3, or JB 4.1.2, then place the files under that, so I can look at the list and say ok mk5 is JB 4.3, so I need to place that in this folder.......Md7 is JB 4.1.2 (stock provided when I got the phones) so I place that under JB/4.1.2.

Just looking for a list so I can sort the version basically

I know that MK5 is JB 4.3 and MG2/MD7 is JB 4.1.2 that came with the phone......aside from that I'm not sure what's ICS and what's JB.

I am after this also to flash CM, so as far as I understand it, CM needs an ICS modem, and since I'm not sure what ICS modem to use, because I don't know what versions are ICS vs JB.

Guess it's the perfectionist in me.


Update:
I think I found the correct list, so if this is wrong please correct me.
4.3 Jelly Bean
MK3
MK5

4.1.2 Jelly Bean
MG2
MD4
MD7 <----came with the phone when bought

4.1.1 Jelly Bean
LJ7

4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich
LEN

So if this is the case I need to look for a LEN modem to work with CM10.....unless on this phone a JB modem will work, because on the S2 you had to always use an ICS modem, so I'm curious does the same hold true here? I guess now it's a 2 part question:

1: Is the above correct?

2: Will a JB modem work with cm10 and above?

 

I just moved the apk file I downloaded and saved it to my sd for safe keeping, then I copied the apk file to system/apps, it said success, then I rebooted the phone and had no issues and no more mag.

They also mention a zip file, and I never tried that method, so can't say if the zip works or not, but it sounds like you used the flashable zip way, so that would explain a boot loop better.
Not sure why you would get a bootloop though, if all your doing is moving a file from one location to another location. The file move was enough and worked fine for me.

Also if you did the move file way, what explorer did you use? Some have reported that the nag removal file wouldn't move over, and it was because of the explorer they were using such as ES file explorer.

I've used ES explorer for years until it had an issue once with r/w settings, I'd set it to read and write, and it still would refuse to move over.....so I looked and found root browser and have never looked back. I use it for everything.

Here is the link for it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree&hl=en I'd recommend this over the others.

 

Sweet, glad it helped. Nice to know I can pay it forward and help out .

I'd like to publicly thank struckn for the extensive help and patience given to me for getting me rooted and kinda being my mentor as I learn more about android/rom stuff.....I thought I had learned a lot from usieng my s2, and here I am learning even more about stuff hehe.

Also like to thanks phandroid folks for chiming in and giveing responses and advice on things.
I know it sounds repetitive, but I just can't seem to thank people enugh for things, if not for this and xda forums, I'd be sunk! So again, thank-you.