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Boost's October ToS change kills ROOT!

Discussion in 'Boost Mobile' started by BDProductions, Oct 16, 2012.

  1. BDProductions

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    Has anyone else got the new ToS from Boost stating:

    No class suits

    No ROOT

    No Mods

    No Tethering without an approved device and plan payment

    and the worst one "SUSPECTED" root or tethering is grounds for termination without means of reinstatement for users NOT GUILTY....

    In other words, they can claim they thought you violated the terms, and even if you have not done so you have no recourse.

    Boost can now boot anyone off their network without showing just cause, and it is not up for debate...

    What do you all think about the new ToS?
     

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  2. kolosus

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    I'm outraged! That is a bunch of bull!

    Can you please pull out the appropriate sections and/or highlight the parts we should be upset over? Thanks. :D
     
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  3. BDProductions

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    I could, but I am as lazy as the next guy...

    First sentence in my post "Has anyone else got the new ToS..."

    Some people never read their terms of service, or at least don't ever read amendments to those terms... I just thought I would provide a heads up.

    The ToS are freely available on Boost's site.

    I think my paraphrasing is close enough to Boost's intent to be sufficiently clear.

    I will consider pasting in the changes later, after work, if someone else with more time has not already. (read that as "feel free to post those terms in this thread if you wish")

    It's kind of depressing, which is why I am off to work... to get my mind off of such upsetting news... I don't want to have to return to post paid T-Mobile or Verizon, but I may have to.

    Let's see how many other people respond that HAVE received notice of the new terms..
     
  4. VoltronMaximus

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    Correct me if Im wrong, but hasnt rooting always been a ToS violation? I wouldnt worry too much about that and modded roms. But for the people that have been using tethering to play CoD on the 360 for 12hrs a day, your days are numbered. http://youtu.be/dsx2vdn7gpY
     
  5. The~Skater~187

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    I just got this text today myself. :mad:

    This is taken right from the Boost T.O.S:


    "We can, without notice, suspend or terminate any Service at any time for any reason. For example, we can suspend or terminate any Service for the following: (a) failure to have or maintain an appropriate account balance for applicable charges; (b) harassing/threatening/abusing/offending our employees or agents; (c) providing false or inaccurate information; (d) interfering with our operations; (e) using/suspicion of using Services in any manner restricted by or inconsistent with the Agreement and Policies; (f) breaching, failing to follow, or abusing the Agreement or Policies; (g) modifying a Device from its manufacturer specifications (for example, rooting the device); or (h) if we believe the action protects our interests, any customer
     
  6. kolosus

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    WHAT???

    They're about to suspend all my accounts! (I have 3). All of my "account holders" live in the local Dunkin Donuts! I just use that address instead of my real address. Not that they care... or so I thought!
     
  7. The~Skater~187

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    If they catch on just tell them you're homeless and everyone runs on Dunkin, lol.
     
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  8. cwhatever

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    I guess if you think about it, they can have people check out the forums, xda, ect, and see what people are doing. They can use these sites like we do. Really now, they have people that are paid to figure stuff out. Now if one or two are doing rooting or whatever, no big deal. Now if alot of people are then they need to try to stop it. Some of the updates were prolly to break root and did. the smarter of us figure out how to get around that, and now the smarter of them are trying to work around us, trying to beat us at our game. It's like a war going on. You don't hear about this stuff going on in the beggining, then as more phones being sold and data sky rocketting, well they want it to stop. The main reason is now that they have you addicted to greatness, well, upgrade and pay them more money,YES, ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. That is how I see it.
     
  9. kevincott

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    I doubt Boost would bounce many users. Myself, I am definately on the lower end of voice and data usage and Boost makes a profit on me.

    It would make no sense for Boost to drop me as a customer for being rooted.
     
  10. Codegerm

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    I would say this is mainly an out for them to get rid of "Problem" users. The ones tethering to their Xbox360 without being on a plan that includes it, would be an example. I also have the SGS2 but don't have the extra tethering add on seeing as I have cable internet at 20 plus Mbps. Having been a loyal customer for several years who doesn't burn up the data lanes, I don't imagine any problems.

    Codegerm
     
  11. wetbiker7

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    WOW! I just read the whole thing and we are pretty much screwed if they decide to cancel our service. What gets me is that they say they can cancel our service if we modify our device. I really don't see how they can do that seeing as it's ours, bought and paid for. All we are paying for is their service. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how far they push it.

    As for the people that are actually abusing the data plan, that's a different story. They know that tethering is not allowed. If they are gonna do it, the least they can do is not abuse it. Anything over 4 or 5 gigs a month is asking for trouble. Heck, even that much is pushing it.
     
  12. rm50

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    Haha Boost might be "cutting off its nose to spite itself."
    They are probably pissed on the prevail side because of all the people that bricked their phones and then went crying to boost and where ever they got the phone and wanted a new 1.
    I don't tether too much and I'm not gonna worry about it for now.
     
  13. It's basically a 'No Idiot's' clause.

    Too many people out there have no clue what they're doing, yet feel they have the right to do what they want to their device.

    These are the people that will wonder why something stopped working when they deleted files they didn't recognize because they were 'out of space'

    Some of those people are dumb enough to call Customer Service and detail every thing they did that caused the problem.

    If a device is unmodified, the only problems the dumb customers can cause, are actual bugs, or hardware failures

    TLDR: So long as you don't tell them that you're rooted, they really have no way to tell. They don't want to waste any time (read: money) fixing problems people caused for themselves.
     
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  14. jSavvy1641

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    Why this is not relevant I belive we should have root rights. We are not taking away from there service or affecting it by any means just cause we can do something they can't
     
  15. kevincott

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    Some peeps are tethering excessively and some others brick their phones while rooting and try to get warrantee work.

    Boost or any carrier can be harmed by rooters.
     
  16. jSavvy1641

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    Yea I totally agree if you are tethering the phone to much and doing it over Xbox gaming which ive never done and never will but I'm just trying to state on my behalf that if you are a rooted user like me and like the phone just for a rom and to talk and text then they should only take away from those who are abusing it and making it harmful to boost company I do understand what your trying to say though
     
  17. vce2005

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    Just my 2c !!!

    This whole thread is soooooooooooo un-necessary !!! It just gives providers more insight about what people do with their phones !!

    If someone is concerned about the "ToS", well, just don't root, don't tether, etc. but don't complain !! And don't make a big deal out of it and get everyone worried.........

    We all know how much providers like tethering....... With threads like that, we just do the same for rooting !!!!

    The whole thread ( in my opinion ) should be deleted !!!
     
  18. kevincott

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    I would guess Boost may be planning on dropping brickers and those excessive Netflix type users and this is a last warning.

    I agree if they do as I do not want price increases in response to brickers/black-hole users. I like paying a low price and Boost still makes profit on me.
     
  19. lucky013

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    This thread is a Boost Mobile "there's proof in the pudding" It's dangerous.
    I use my phone for Unlimited Calling, Text and Data. PERIOD.
     
  20. lunatic59

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    *moved to Boost Mobile Forum*
     
  21. cjreyes666

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    People relax you are drowning in a glass of water. The larger carriers havent done anything against any rooters and when it comes to data its hard to tell how your data is being used. The no lawsuits its to cover their asses when they screw up on someone who hasnt rooted their device and still got the service cancel.
     
  22. palmtree5

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    The average user is not going to be using excessive amounts of data. When a user is using 4 or 5 GB of data, it's kinda obvious that something's going on that shouldn't be (from the carrier's POV). As for the people who do tether and use it to play online, if you have a faster connection, use that to play. Don't risk losing your phone over some online gaming. If your phone is your fastest connection and there is nothing around you that could be faster, you might look into a 3g/4g hotspot which would do the same thing as tethering your phone but without violating the ToS for your phone.
     
  23. mydian

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    Just because someone is using a lot of data doesn't meant they are tethering. I could burn through several GB a day just streaming video with the xfinity play app.
     
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    Good point
     
  25. kevincott

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    ToS states throttling after 2.5 GB a month regardless. I would expect accounts like yours to be reviewed for being excessive.
     

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