Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by may2700, Sep 16, 2011.
just wondering, can i root my bionic and then get the wifi hotspot feature for free with an app?
Yes, but bear in mind, this is not exactly... allowed. So don't hold me or anyone else accountable for your actions.
on your bionic?
yes on my bionic, i am allready tethering but work in an office and was going to make wifi aval to other people, but wanted to know if i could so it w/o paying for it. thanks
1. It will most assuredly be possible (if not already) but likely won't be easy until a custom kernel is developed and released such as CM7.
2. It's a touchy subject around here. Be warned that if you start tethering without paying, it is understood (or assumed) that Verizon can track it. If you start using 20GB a month because of this, you will likely be punished.
3. I was quoting messenger when I asked about the Bionic. I know you meant the Bionic, since this was posted in the Bionic forums. But since there are no custom roms out for the Bionic yet I was questiong as to if his tethering he says he is doing was in fact on his Bionic.
See blyght's post. it does work. But do it at your own risk.
Yes, I am tethering on the Bionic. But frankly, I don't even like talking about it. I do it VERY little, only when I absolutely need to. And since buying the Bionic, other than testing, I haven't tethered at all.
In short, I only like getting these things to work just for the satisfaction of it. I don't want to help anyone when I know it has the potential to could get them into trouble. And anyone who tells anyone that Verizon cannot track tethering is an idiot. (This coming from a network engineer.) But I am also of the opinion that Verizon won't spend the resources chasing down illegal tether'ers. But I can't guarantee this.
That blog post also had an XDA post associated - and the poster was harangued (and rightfully so) by cellzealot for advocating the use of RadioCall to hide your tracks....
Best bet is just to pay for the hotspot specially if you plan on using it all the time.
If you are going to share it with your office then i would not do it. The data could add up fast and red flag you. I dont know a whole lot on this subject but i have read a bunch of threads on it. I tether on a little bit but i mainly use pda net when possible.
theres nothing illegal about using unlimited data your paying for. verizon wants you to pay for the option to tether. so they can profit from it. can they tell its happening almost certainly. now if all your traffic is encrypted can they prove it? probably not.
If you want to use the hotspot for your personal use, you can possible fly "Under the radar" because of the amount of data you might use. but.... if you're looking to be a "nice guy" and provide free unlimited internet to your friends at work, well, like hunterwrot said, the data could add up very quickly and it won't be your buddies that get into trouble should you get caught. It'll be you. Only you can determine if being a "good ol' boy" outweigh the possible downside should Verizon find out what you're doing.
You sir are quite misinformed. It is in fact quite illegal to tether your phone without paying for it. Of course Verizon wants to profit from it, they're a business and in business the object is to make money. Supply and demand, they have something you want, you pay to use their service.
The simple fact is, whether you agree with it or not, Verizon has decided to charge for the ability to tether and in fact assigned a completely separate data plan to that function.
If you decide that you want to tether without paying for it you have to actively pursue a course of action to circumvent their system and then you are using a service you are not paying for.
You can justify any number of reasons for why you think Verizon's wrong to charge for tethering but the fact remains you are using their system and as such you are subject to their terms of service which includes following their rules. One of which happens to be that if you want to tether, you agree to sign up for a data plan to do so.
Its not like this is an original idea and Verizon is the only company charging for this service.
I try not to judge people or their actions. If you want to do that, you're a big boy and know the risks, go for it. Just be ready for the consequences and don't come back all surprised and butt hurt if you get caught.
What bothers me is when people put out blatantly wrong information which might get someone into a jamm. Don't let personal opinions or beliefs muddy the waters of legality.
I find this whole discussion funny. "Legality" is a very subjective term in the smart phone world right now. According to Apple your use of this phone is "illegal". You'll have to weigh any action you take with a device like this in light of this. If you tether the phone by rooting you will most-likely be throttled if you're blowing through data.
I think its important people also understand these things are all new territory for these companies as well. Their policies are evolving too. The tiered data plans are a reflection of two things. (1) it is incredibly expensive to give people what they want and (2) we still want to make money.
Even if Verizon itself told you it was illegal to tether I think you'd have a great argument in demanding to know why they sell a device that tethers then? Yes they'd like to charge for it but then why sell it on an open source OS where anyone with half a brain can root it? And why do you allow the option to install programs that do not belong to Verizon? And why do you allow free USB tethering?
I personally think as things develop you will see Android evolve to more closely resemble a closed OS.
The real question should be would it be worth fighting Verizon should they throttle you, bill you or suspend your account for tethering against their will.
Are we using the same Bionic here? Mine tethers just fine without any apps or rooting and all for free. Just plugged it in my laptop,it installed drivers and I was surfing. I have unlimited data plan but I dont think that has anything to do with it. So I dont think its illegal to tether if its a feature and I was never prompted not charged for it and been doing it for a week now no issues.
Yes you're okay, USB tethering is free. That's the point. Verizon wants you to pay for wireless tethering.
obviously bandwidth is not an issue with tethering (either wireless or USB) because VZW is willing to sell you the service.
Someone mentioned that if you teather and dont pay VZW will suspend you...bad move. My bill is $84 and month for unlimited internet/text/450min talk. Thats $1008 a year or $2016 for my 2 year contract. No way I will probably ever use 2000bucks worth of wireless tethering, so thay arnt going to loose my service over tethering.
Now what the pinheads and bean counters SHOULD do is offer free wireless tethering. Again the bandwith is there, cause there willing to sell it. Raise the price of unlimited bandwith to 39.95.People would be lining up outside VZW stores like crazy and not for some half baked early released not ready for prime time Moto phone either. That would be a bigger boom than the IP5 or Prime or what ever.
The internet has always been about bandwith and access. The cable companies would be peeing in their pants because $G is fast enough for alot of people who dont game and the other phone companies would half to follow.
OK VZW, on with the bandwidth wars...you already have my number
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