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  1. horsecharles

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    Is it at all possible to enable NFC when the processor supports it?
     

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    The phone doesn't have NFC because it doesn't have all the hardware needed for it to work. If NFC is that important to you, you should probably consider getting a different device
     
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    I was hoping for an answer where something could be soldered.
    It's worth getting as a holdover at least.
     
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    Nope, not going to happen. If you really need NFC, then buy a phone has it. :thumbsupdroid:

    I had a phone with NFC, but never used it.
     
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    I've always liked the idea of NFC, but to this day have never used it. I have the Stylo now and still have not used it. I may have used Android Pay, but because I am rooted I can't use it... sooooo there is no need for NFC for me. So I will still get the Zmax Pro. I had the Zmax (now it's my girlfriend's phone) and didn't miss NFC. I don't think I will when I get the Pro.
     
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    https://www.androidpit.com/best-uses-for-nfc

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-c...roid-smartphone-with-NFC-and-NFC-tags_id64874

    We need nfc thread.
     
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    For me two benefits jump out -
    1. I misplace stuff a lot.
    2. Not having to subscribe to broadband at home or dealing with routers.
     
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    There were a few companies working on adding NFC to any phone via an SD card. But... I'm not sure how far this development got. It's hard to get the facts about it online. Mostly old info and hype.
     
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    Probably couldn't make it work.
     
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    Hopeful info about adding NFC to phones via an SD card.

    http://nearfieldcommunication.org/sd-sim-cards.html

    http://www.geek.com/mobile/nfc-payments-now-possible-with-microsd-cards-1557706/

    http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/02/22/with-smartsd-the-sd-association-wants-to-adapt-microsd-cards-to-make-mobile-payments/

    There was actually a company that succeeded in doing it a few years ago, but they used older SD cards and a proprietary payment system. So, it CAN be done.

    It just appears that there isn't a fully realized solution AVAILABLE right now.
     
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    For mobile payments to really take off, the functionality needs to be available to far more than merely the latest devices.

    I've already seen mobile payments take off, in a big way. QR codes, and just about every smartphone has a camera in it. Even in places that don't have EPOS terminals and merchant services to accept credit cards. They would usually be cash only.


    As I understand it, NFC is about transferring a small block of data. Thing is QR codes can do that as well, and they don't require any extra hardware at all, apart from the device having a camera.
     
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    NFC is about easily, wirelessly transferring data between devices (bi-directional). QR codes are more of a stationary method. Codes are printed on paper or displayed on a screen and then scanned and processed by a phone via camera. It's true that you COULD devise methods to transfer larger amounts of data with QR (using video QR) but it would rely heavily on the quality of display and camera in each phone or device sharing info. Expect lots of errors in such a "sharing" process. Plus, if two devices were "sharing" info using QR, they would need to be aligned propwrly and one could only SEND while the other would RECEIVE.

    I understand what you're getting at, but QR is not really an alternative to NFC.
     
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    Those articles are referring to NFC for payments, which requires the phone to have NFC and the vendor to have a suitable EPOS terminal along with merchant services from their bank. Something that can still be quite rare around here.

    Thing is I'm already doing that every day with QR codes, and see many others doing it as well. Like a taxi driver only has a phone or his QR code sticker stuck on the dashboard of the taxi. Scan the code, enter amount of payment, PIN, and it's done, fare is paid. :D Quite frankly I've found scanning QR is no more difficult than scanning product barcodes at a supermarket checkout. :D

    The bidirectional exchange of data happens online via cellular data or WiFi or whatever. NFC payment methods still have to be done and authenticated online.

    It's called Tenpay or Alipay... no NFC required.

    I've seen a few places that accept Samsung Pay or Apple Pay NFC, but they can still be quite few and far between, and require expensive flagship Samsungs or IPhones of course.

    FYI I'm in China not United States.

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    Difficult or more costly to put NFC in a T-shirt!! ...LOL
     
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    I really like the thinking behind the pay with QR, common sense + low cost + utilizing tools everyone already uses.
    This is what's needed to make x technology quickly widespread.
    Paying with QR potentially could allow anyone walking down the street to accept non-cash payment...no phone peripheral(or even phone itself) needed.
    This is HUGE.

    Unfortunately Google tries so many things simultaneously, that some individual projects don't get as far as how a solely-dedicated company could take them.
    Had Google acquired LoopPay(instead of Samsung), plus possibly a bank... we would ALL be using this EVERYWHERE, and Google would rule the world.
    I see some potential with Google Hands Free, just with saying "pay with Google", but again - it would help Google to acquire a bank or at least a payments processor. Yes, regulatory approval is needed...
     
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