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  1. PITA

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    First let me thank all the savvy people who post in places like this forum for people like me not smart enough to solve my own phone problems.

    I desperately want to undo the Thunderbolt update Verizon just put out. Is there any way to do this? I suppose I could factory reset, but we all know what a pain that can be. Any other suggestions? I am not a rooted user; not smart enough to do that. Any help would be appreciated:( Thanks again!
    Kelly
     

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    I would like to regain the mobile hotspot as well. I am not rooted, i tried easy tether and though it worked with a usb cable, it was really slow. We just went live with 4g yesterday and I didnt realize this update was the 4g hotspot killer. Any help would be appreciated. build is 1.70.605.0 ,

    Thanks In advance

    Also a good wireless app without having to pay the 30.00 a month for verizon mobile hotspot would work as well.
     
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    You reset phone you will have that update on your phone still. Without rooting no way to remove update. With rooting not real sure
     
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    They can charge you for the hotspot even if you use it with the old version since the promotion has expired.
     
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    Surprised nobody replying back. Rooting is talked about alot, but most people won't touch it unless they android nerds from mars. To much bullcrap to do to root this thing. It's not easy if it was they would start a one click website like jailbreakme.com for iphone, but for android and charge for it. They would make a killing, but they don't like money right.
     
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    At least if you had the data plan before the loss of the free hotspot, you can get the hotspot unlimited for $30.00 :)
    Not cheap but at least you could watch netflix movies all you want and not have to watch the calender for your next gigs to reset.
    Thanks,
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    without root, it is impossible to "undo" and update. even manually trying to flash the stock software, the phone will not allow an older software to be flashed over a new one.

    the only way to do it is to Root. then you can flash to the unrooted (or rooted) shipping software version.
    but like the other guy said, the hotspot probably wont work, or they could at least charge you since the promo is over.
     
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    Here is a tutorial to downgrade your OS (You are going to need to be rooted): [HOWTO] Restore to stock for root users and non-root users UPDATED 5/17/2011 - xda-developers

    Rooting is very easy if you are able to follow simple directions. Here is guide: http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/322897-thunderbolt-rooting-methods.html, and no you don't have to be an Android Geek from Mars (whatever the hell that means) to be ablt to root.

    If you decide to stay rooted, you can flash a custom Rom and use be able to use a tethering program designed for root users.

    DZ
     
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    Are you serious? Rooting is very easy. It's not 1-click like some jailbreaks are, but thats because most android users arent dumb enough to require it. We actually know what the command line is.
     
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    Um..no it is because most the 1 click methods have been patched by google with updated versions of android.

    To the OP and first reply, rooting would be the only way to do what you wish to do. You can not "roll back" to an older version of the firmware on your phone without first getting superuser (root) access, even then you wouldn't be able to have the phone just like it was before the update, and it would wipe your data (currently I do not think there is a confirmed root process with no loss of data but some are in testing yet they are more complicated than just getting root access). Do not think you aren't smart enough to root. You have all the info you need but you are likely scared to root because there is a diving into the unknown feeling that goes along with the first time you root. There are "how to's" over in the stickys of the all thing root section and you can post any questions you have in the forum you will get help.
     
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    Watch the youtube videos. They show you what the various screens will look like (HBOOT and adb)...might make you feel better. I printed out the guide and crossed stuff off as I did it to make sure I did things in the right order and did not miss a step.

    FWIW, I have a first gen iPod touch. There were some jailbreaks along the way that were MUCH more nerve-wracking than this was. They were not all just click a button. Some had 20 minute processes where you just sort of hoped you did not just brick a $400 mp3 player.
     
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    Thanks Y,
    I see many of your posts and have come to trust your commentary. I'm still too afraid to root. Maybe down the road...sigh. But I very much appreciate that you posted a response. It was very helpful.
    Pita
     
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    Thanks B,
    That's a good idea. I'll check out the videos... I'm much more a visual person.
    Pita
     
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    No problem, I understand you being uneasy about rooting, if you are still unsure and haven't rooted whenever the next OTA hits do not accept it. The GB update will block the ability to root the device unless HTC decides to for some reason give up on stopping people from rooting. Everything in the dev community has put out in regards to testing of the GB update shows it being unrootable currently. There may be a way found to root it after the update but that is no guarentee. If you have any questions about the process feel free to ask, the process is not as hard as it seems.
     
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    Just thot I'd point out that following the "nonrooted" portion of this guide doesn't really require you to root. You do need to gain temp root and rewrite the misc image so that the stock s-on bootloader will let you roll back to earlier firmware without getting the "main version higher" error.this is what the adb command lines in the guide are doing.

    Doing this,however,is pretty pointless IMO,as you wont be able to stay on rooted or unrooted STOCK firmware without your phone constantly pestering you to update.

    All of ya wanting to "undo the update so you can get the hotspot back",your best bet is to root,flash the rooted current firmware(it does offer some benefits over past versions) and then get a "root only" tether app like wireless tether or barnacle.
     
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    If you are going to do this much then you should just go ahead and root. I still think the hardest part of rooting this phone is either getting up the nerve to do it or getting ADB set up and working properly. Everything else is copy, paste, and wait.
     
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    verizon is real tricky with trying to sneak in the software update.i have managed to cancel the update for over a month now.

    when i do use the mobile hotspot there is always a popup that tells me:

    "for a limited time, mobile hotspot and mobile broadband connect services are available on this device for no additional charge.when the promotional period expires, you will need to subscribe to the applicable service to continue using this application"

    which means they cant charge me!

    i have noticed the past few days i cant get anything more than 1x data...maybe they have found a way to force me to update?
    anyone else have that happen to them?

    update...when i turned on the mobile hotspot(which i haven't used in a few days, my 4g service came back and is working fine now...strange
     
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    you might as well update and get it overwith. your phone is eventually going to to do it when youre not paying attention,you cant go on "install later"ing forever.

    if you want to tether,root and use a root only tether app like wireless tether or barnacle.
     
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    How sneaky of Verizon to push out an update to make you pay for a service they offered for free for a limited time!
     

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