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Support Car Audio: iPod USB Controls on Incredible?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Bing, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. Bing

    Bing Well-Known Member
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    I have this in-car audio system, which has both a 3.5mm AUX jack and a USB port. My iPhone allowed me to simply plug it in and control the audio from the car while I drove (meaning no looking down at the touchscreen). I was also able to open Pandora and stream the audio while the phone charged (though I had to use the screen for controls then).

    Now that I have my Incredible, I found I am able to charge the phone via the USB port, but not play audio. This means I'd have to use BOTH ports in order to charge+listen. I was wondering if anyone knew of any ways around this, or if my Sony system would need a software upgrade, or some other never-gonna-happen situation?

    Thanks!
     

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  2. FierceDeityLink1

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    Never gonna happen situation. The great thing about the iPod/iPhone is the dock connector.

    I've heard that if you have a Bluetooth headunit that supports A2DP, you can control previous/next/etc. song and thumbs up/down as well as get audio from it.
     
  3. glap1922

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    Wow that is the exact same radio and situation I just found myself in. I was hoping that someone would have an answer but no luck so far.
    I'm wondering if maybe it will work if the folders are labeled a certain way, since I believe the car unit will work with a flash drive, but I am not sure.
     
  4. Haelous

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    When I plug the Inc into my car via USB and set the phone to disk drive, I can play music off of the SD card just fine. Works just as if I plugged a flash drive into it.

    For Pandora, Slacker, etc it's best to use Bluetooth so you get the steering wheel controls. These also work for playing regular music files over Bluetooth, of course.
     
  5. dgold82

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    Is there a bluetooth remote out there that you can use with regular headphones? I would buy one and clip it to my steering wheel if possible while listening via aux.
     
  6. 92slammer

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    my alpine ida-001 can control the music on my INC....i can plug it up via usb and it reads the music...goes through folders and all....just doesnt show the album art like it does with an ipod...however i also have bluetooth so i just use it that way
     
  7. kayst

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    Does this work with music on the /emmc memory, or only on the /sdcard?
     
  8. 92slammer

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    not sure...all my music is on the sdcard
     
  9. bldmovs

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    92slammer i also have the same head unit (ida-x001). i LOVE this head unit when paired with my ipod, one for the fact that it bypasses the DAC on the ipod and uses a 24bit burr-brown internal to the x001, and secondly for the ease of use for finding music. i am impatiently waiting for after-market stereo companies to get with the ball and stop bowing to ipods. its time for them to seriously start supporting andriod with audio and video streaming and connectivity along with streaming audio from pandora etc. and also we need to be able to stream audio via our 3g phones from our own personal servers etc... hello alpine, pioneer, kenwood are you listening?
     
  10. 92slammer

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    i know. i have a bury bluetooth kit connected to the headunit so 90% of the time i just stream audio that way. i wish the HU would show the album art from the INC....that would rock
     
  11. Bing

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    Seeing as all my music is on the internal memory (/emmc), and it wasn't playing before, I believe it only works from the SD card. I tested a USB drive last night with a few MP3s and it worked for that, so if I copy my music to the SD card it should work there instead. I just need to get one bigger than the 2GB freebie it came with.
     
  12. Nethyr

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    I would actually contest the idea that this is "never gonna happen". The reason being that we know the MicroUSB is more than just the standard plug. As others here have proven, there are 7 bonus pins for the purpose of TV-out, hence we know that not only sound, but video as well can be transmitted via the USB port without using the headphone jack.

    The details of making this actually functional will probably come down to two factors.
    1) An IncrediUSB (lets call our proprietary microUSB + 7 connection that for now) to headphone (or similar audio-out) plug.
    2) The phone's UI being willing to transmit audio to this port intelligently, AND receive commands back from an outside source. I bet it can already transmit the audio smartly. Will it accept outside commands? I seriously doubt it, but once we're rooted this can certainly be addressed.

    All in all I say it'll definitely happen soon after someone can make the plug and we get root.
     
  13. beallpatrick

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    It should be SD card only based on the way that most stereos and Android works...

    As far as I know, Android only allows you to mount the sd card when attached to anything via USB, and most stereos aren't bright enough to do more than detect either an iPod or a generic flash drive.

    It would really be awesome if someone could figure out how an iPod identifies itself though, because on Pioneer heads, flash drive playback is pretty gimped (ie. you can only shuffle through your music if you never skip songs--when you skip, it just goes to the next track, etc.). Plus navigation ends up being a messy jumble of folders instead of a nice concise list of artists.
     
  14. kayst

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    Except that the internal drive mounts as a usb disk drive when you connect to a computer, just like the sdcard does. So, I don't see why it should be treated any differently than the sdcard. But it obviously is.
     
  15. sandman423

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    I have Pioneer Radio that doesn't have Bluetooth because I need an Adapter.

    I plug in my Incred via AUX and I manually have to change songs which is dangerous and inconvenient when your driving any ideas how to get this to work via USB for Pandora or Slacker on Incredible?
     

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