Coming to a new conclusion about the true 4G coverage.

[sreum]

Ok I have had services with Metro for 3 months now and have yet to get true reliable 4G coverage any where

 

[sreum]

For got to add........when I get the update my theory will be put to the test and I will update you guys on the out come.

 

[Rominucka]

Link me to where I can find what my area is up to.

And "true" 4G does not exist yet. What everybody is calling 4G or LTE does not comply with the International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced requirements for 4G. True 4G is supposed to have data rates up to 1 gbps at low mobility (walking around or staying still) and 100 mbps at high mobility (in a car or fast vehicle).

4G LTE should really be branded "Advanced 3G" but I guess the marketing people calculated that the public would get bigger boners if it was (falsely) called 4G.

 

[ciper]

"true" 4G does not exist yet. What everybody is calling 4G or LTE does not comply with the International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced requirements for 4G.

Not anymore. LTE can officially be called 4G now. A few months ago you would have been right right. IMTA changed the requirements and you are allowed to call LTE and Wimax 4g because they are upgradeable (in the next software revision) to the meet the original 4G specifications.

HSPA+ on the other hand cannot be called 4G, and surprising enough AT&T is building out there LTE network right now and using HSPA+ as a stopgap

edit:On December 6, 2010 ITU said -

Following a detailed evaluation against stringent technical and operational criteria, ITU has determined that “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax...

http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx

 

[sreum]

Link me to where I can find what my area is up to.

And "true" 4G does not exist yet. What everybody is calling 4G or LTE does not comply with the International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced requirements for 4G. True 4G is supposed to have data rates up to 1 gbps at low mobility (walking around or staying still) and 100 mbps at high mobility (in a car or fast vehicle).

4G LTE should really be branded "Advanced 3G" but I guess the marketing people calculated that the public would get bigger boners if it was (falsely) called 4G.

LOL I like that comment about the public and 4G thats funny.

But here is a link to where to find your coverage.

MetroPCS | Coverage

 

[ciper]

Check 426 23rd avenue San Francisco Ca 94121
It says "Best" and I literally have zero bars most of the time while I sit next to a window. 1x is spotty at best and 4g just doesnt exist at all

 

[sreum]

Check 426 23rd avenue San Francisco Ca 94121
It says "Best"

When you say best, is the talk, text, & more showing your in the best? Or is the 4G showing your in the best?

you can choose between the two at the top of the map there are three tabs.

Talk, text, & more...........this tab will rate how good your coverage will be.

unliminted text.........I have not even loooked at that tab, for this purpose I dont think it matters any.

4G tab.......this tab only tells you if your in the 4G area. It is not rating how good the coverage will be. It only tells you if that area is considered to be 4G area.

 

[BlueMuscles]

Very hard for me to see the difference in the last 2 colors because they look the same to me ....wonder if they done that on purpose....hmmmmmmm

I can clearly make out the purple but the other 2 look the same.

I get great phone coverage and text and had decent 4g (always around 4-6)
but since the update it's been much slower...now it's varies from 1-3.

I'm going to wait a few days before opening a ticket being I only have this phone for 8 days.

Another thing...How come my speed tests are so different at different sites..I try them back to back the difference is staggering.

speedtest.com
speakeasy.net
mobilespeedtest.com

 

[sreum]

Very hard for me to see the difference in the last 2 colors because they look the same to me ....wonder if they done that on purpose....hmmmmmmm

I can clearly make out the purple but the other 2 look the same.

I get great phone coverage and text and had decent 4g (always around 4-6)
but since the update it's been much slower...now it's varies from 1-3.

I'm going to wait a few days before opening a ticket being I only have this phone for 8 days.

Another thing...How come my speed tests are so different at different sites..I try them back to back the difference is staggering.

speedtest.com
speakeasy.net
mobilespeedtest.com

Have you done a battery pull and/or a manual reboot since the update?
Secodn for the speed test many reasons could cause that, but one might be distance as to where the sites info is coming from. Farther away the slower the test.

 

[BlueMuscles]

Have you done a battery pull and/or a manual reboot since the update?
Secodn for the speed test many reasons could cause that, but one might be distance as to where the sites info is coming from. Farther away the slower the test.

Have not pulled the battery....should I ?

 

[sreum]

Have not pulled the battery....should I ?

Yeah. Give it a battery pull while the phone is on. Some times it works some times it wont help a bit. But I have never heard of it causing damamge. And actually I have had the customer support techs ask me to do that to my phone before after a data push they did.

 

[ciper]

When you say best, is the talk, text, & more showing your in the best? Or is the 4G showing your in the best?

Look at the bottom of the T&T screen, below the map. There is a gauge

 

[sreum]

Look at the bottom of the T&T screen, below the map. There is a gauge

So its the Talk, Text, & More screen you are looking at that says your in the best........hmmmm my theory might be wrong.

Have you had the update yet?

 

[ciper]

Before the update the signal was shit here
Now I only have half the update on my phone, I have the two new radio firmwares but not the OS side and the signal is still shit

 

[sreum]

Before the update the signal was shit here
Now I only have half the update on my phone, I have the two new radio firmwares but not the OS side and the signal is still shit

Dam, seems like you got half shafted...... why doesnt that surprize me any more with Metro. You might want to call support.

 

[ciper]

Calling support is something I would never do. They are beyond useless - meaning they sometimes make the situation worse.

Half the time they dont even have a computer in front of them but rather a binder full of common issues and they read from it as if they had your phone in front of them.

 

[Heavyweightgd6]

Before the update the signal was shit here
Now I only have half the update on my phone, I have the two new radio firmwares but not the OS side and the signal is still shit

How did you find that out ciper? I think i have the same issue becuz i had a mess up when i got my update.

 

[BlueMuscles]

Take a gander at the new coverage map..it now has 4 tabs instead of the 3 it had yesterdy.

MetroPCS | Coverage

 

[tiede]

How did you find that out ciper? I think i have the same issue becuz i had a mess up when i got my update.

You can find out if you had half the update if your build number is still EA29 in the About phone page.
Settings->About Phone, and scroll all the way down.
If it's EE7D (that's the new one right, I don't have the update myself yet...), then you're all set.

 

[LSMedia732]

Ive noticed that I get 4G in towns that have a MetroPCS store lol.. Weird but true on my end

 

[Rominucka]

TTM = Best
My 4G = Metro PCS 4G home area
My actual 4G operating = Great everywhere but in one of my friend's house

 

[sreum]

Take a gander at the new coverage map..it now has 4 tabs instead of the 3 it had yesterdy.

MetroPCS | Coverage

Go figure they are catching onto their F up.
Next you will probably see other things change.

 

[sreum]

Ive noticed that I get 4G in towns that have a MetroPCS store lol.. Weird but true on my end

Yeah because they have to make sure their stores are 100% in the network. Cause would you by a phone that dropped into 1x for a bit and then back into 4G while they are trying to show you things on it.