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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by mc6701, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. mc6701

    mc6701 Newbie
    Thread Starter

    Hi All.......

    I have been a bit of a lurker on the forums here for a while but have now decided to join the party ;)

    I have found so much information on here and read and read and read.......so much that my little brain hurts.:rolleyes:

    Anyway........i'm confussed:thinking:

    I have a stock ota upgraded to 2.2 Orange branded Black desire and i have had it just over a year so guess it is outside of warrenty so wont be returning it to them if i have a problem but still have a year left on the contract.
    My problem is the same old space issue and i have got fed up with it now.

    I have 5 apps installed that i have put on the phone.
    Angry Birds
    and a Beamwidget for a touch light

    Then also in the downloaded tab there is Adobe Flash 10.3, Gmail, Maps and Market which i have not downloaded myself these are just the stock app that were on the phone and have been updated i'm guessing??

    This to me does not seem like i have to many app, how many do other have on their Desires??

    As im looking at my phone now i have available space of 14.58MB the phone is telling me i'm running low on space and i can't even update Angry birds to the latest version as there is not enough space.
    There are 11 Orange branded apps/demo games that i can't get rid off so have been looking on here to see what i need to do..........

    So I thought if i debranded and put a generic HTC rom on the phone i would loose all the Orange crap and free up space but then i read that this wont free up space as the orange crap is not with where apps are store is this correct??

    I like the phones UI so don't really want to loose this and also like the facebook for sense stuff that links profiles to my phone contact so don't really wont to loose this either (but have read this uses a lot of memory??).

    So if i root and flash with a custom rom am i going to loose the facebook for sense that i like and the htc UI that i also like and if the operating system space is fixed how will installing a custom rom give me more space also?? (or does this alter the space for the operating system to make more space for other stuff??)

    So in a nut shell I dont want to change this and change that, overclock this under volt that...........
    I just want the phone to work as it is but have space to put a few more apps on.

    Sorry for the long post i hope someone take the time to read it all and guide me in the right direction

    Thanks in advance


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  2. SUroot

    SUroot Extreme Android User

    many custom roms are sense based so you dont have to lose anything. You need one with a2sd+ / init.d support to allow a2sd+

    Teppic74 has a rooted stock 2.2 and 2.3 version available which is simply HTC sense android + a2sd+ for which you need to partition your sd card.

    Your warranty is 2 years though and this will void. You cant return an orange desire back to stock either as there is no official utility for orange so think carefully before you do anything.
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  3. mc6701

    mc6701 Newbie
    Thread Starter

    Many thanks for your reply.......So looks like i'm going to have to root then.

    Didn't know about the 2 year warranty so will have a good think first.
  4. amlothi

    amlothi Android Expert

    Have you checked the cache sizes and tried clearing cache? I'm wondering if something went wrong and you have a bug in your contacts storage where it's taking up an enormous amount of space or something.
  5. Rastaman-FB

    Rastaman-FB Extreme Android User

    ahh but he could flash the 2.3 dev RUU and be covered? or have they said that voids warranty too?
  6. SUroot

    SUroot Extreme Android User

    Holy smartphone Batman, that is a great point that I hadn't thought about. They have stated that it does NOT void warranty.
  7. cammyhorne

    cammyhorne Newbie

    hi mate, i have just rooted this week after a year of having my phone, i read many forms on here and xda, on how to do it properly, iam currently using a dersire ROM, with all my aps i want i still have 50mb left on my internal storage. i am looking into doing + a2sd+, but that will be a few weeks

    if ur not to sure what to do dont do it, but if your confident in what your doing go for it.
  8. mc6701

    mc6701 Newbie
    Thread Starter

    Was going to ask that ........ so if I root then have a warranty issue I could flash to 2.3 from HTC site and this would allow me to return it?

    Also just before I do any of this I'm going to do a factory restore to make sure I have not got something hidden that I've installed......as my phone was shipped with 2.1 will it go back to 2.1 and then have to download 2.2 again from Orange.
  9. SUroot

    SUroot Extreme Android User

    Factory reset is only data and settings. It will not revert operating system
  10. rowlers

    rowlers Android Enthusiast

    Is the 2 year warranty with Orange or HTC? I thought (via goldcard) you could RUU to wwe stock, and still get warranty through HTC?
  11. SUroot

    SUroot Extreme Android User

    You can't get warranty through HTC if you have debranded. You have to have a version that matches the serial number or the 2.3.3 release which the made universal
  12. mc6701

    mc6701 Newbie
    Thread Starter

    Just rest to factory settings........installed everything i had before plus a few other apps and still got 84mb left.
    Not linked my face book profile to sense yet.........how much internal space does this use??
    Maybe i dont need to do anything and can leave it stock!!
  13. Rastaman-FB

    Rastaman-FB Extreme Android User

    qare you using the dgb 60 hboot are standard?
    you can move apps 2 sd via manage applications

    if you are not using the dgb hboots then you are missing out of a ton of space
  14. rowlers

    rowlers Android Enthusiast

    how would they know I'd debranded? would they know from serial number etc.. that it was originally an Orange phone?
    At least the 2.3.3 is a good get out!
  15. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
    VIP Member

    Well an RUU checks the cid when it runs, so I'm sure the service centre could spot that as well.
  16. Mattb81

    Mattb81 Well-Known Member

    Angry Birds and eBay can go on SD using standard 2.2 A2SD. That will free up 12mb ish.

    You can get away without using flash for most things, freeing up another 10mb.

    I hear your pain though as you want what I want, yet I can't get mine rooted. It's very confusing to non coders.

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