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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by s2005, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. s2005

    s2005 Member
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    So I'm looking to buy my first tablet.

    I was going to buy an Amazon Kindle Fire, but this Google N7 is so much better from what I've read.

    I have a couple concerns.

    One, the OTG Host mode. I have the cable with microUSB to Female USB. I use flash/thumb drives a LOT and would LOVE to be able to move files from one to the other on the fly.

    *Ninja Edit* Found my answer to the first one. Gotta be root, which is the first thing I'd do to it when I get it anyway.

    Two, does the N7 not have an HDMI out?
     



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  2. dautley

    dautley Android Expert

    No HDMI out but neither does the Kindle Fire.
     
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  3. s2005

    s2005 Member
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    True.

    I've been reading something about other video out? What is MHL?
     
  4. s2005

    s2005 Member
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  5. Don't know anything about it, but check the WIKI article for a bit of detail. I've got a N7 and it's great, would thoroughly recommend.
     
  6. breadnatty08

    breadnatty08 pain rustique


    Unfortunately, the N7 does not have an MHL out. Kind of strange since most phones do these days.
     
  7. binary visions

    binary visions Android Expert

    Most phones retail for 400+ though, and have a smaller screen/battery to boot :)
     
  8. breadnatty08

    breadnatty08 pain rustique

    No doubt those smaller internals cost more, but (and I have no idea) would including an MHL out cost that much more to production?
     
  9. binary visions

    binary visions Android Expert

    By itself? It wouldn't. It'd cost a little bit more. On the other hand, if it costs them five bucks more, times 500,000 units... It could be the difference between turning a meager profit or not. The company I work for makes embedded devices - you might be shocked at how small a difference in cost can make or break a profit margin.

    Plus - MHL isn't that much more. But neither is doubling the memory capacity. And adding cellular connectivity. And a micro SD card slot. And haptic feedback. And a notification LED. And a rear-facing camera. And...

    And you can add features until the device is now double in price :). They picked what was important to hit an extremely low price point. Any feature can be argued to not add much in price - but someone will make that argument for ANY of the features, and adding ALL of them is expensive.

    P.S. if you look at the teardown of the Nexus, you'll find most of the components are stock "phone-sized" components. You're getting little to no miniaturization in a cell phone; just a smaller battery and screen.
     
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  10. s2005

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    Thanks guys for all the info! HDMI isn't a make it or break it add, but it would be really really nice. I may hold out for a different tablet... I have to use an old broken laptop for Netflix and HBOgo right now... was hoping the tablet could do that for me. It does do OTG with root, so that was one of my requirements to even consider the device.

    I went to Bestbuy/Gamestop/&Sam's Club and ALL of them were sold out, and didn't even have a display model for me to fondle. They all also only had 16GB versions. Is the Play Store the ONLY place you can buy an 8GB?

    I've never owned a tablet, and never used "cloud" before. Is it free? If it is, then the 8GB should be fine for me. I don't really want to spend $50 more for 8 more GB when I can have a flash drive linked in OTG.
     
  11. Jay Aristide

    Jay Aristide Well-Known Member


    I've yet to see an 8GB anywhere but the Play Store. While I'm really happy with my 8GB, I will be passing it down to my brother as soon as I have the money for a 16GB. I like the cloud and all (yes, it's free), but I could really use the extra internal space.
     
  12. s2005

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    I remember hearing something about streaming it onto my TV? Is this possible via a third device? What devices will do this?

    I have a PS3, Wii, and 360

    Another question: What other options are there for tablets that are around $200-$250 that can do OTG and HDMI/MHL. I prefer 7"... I looked at the Asus Transformers but they are $400 :0

    What do you guys think about the Motorola Xoom?
     
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  14. Jay Aristide

    Jay Aristide Well-Known Member

    The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 supports HDMI out via a cable/dock, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're really comfortable tinkering with root/roms/etc, as the firmware it comes with/upgrades to is absolute garbage, and Samsung is among the worst of the hardware vendors when it comes to providing timely updates.. On the up side, however, their hardware is top-notch :)
     
  15. s2005

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    I had a Captivate rooted/rom'd and an Infuse rooted/rom'd but I'm using a Moto Atrix2 right now. I had problems with the Captivate and Infuse...

    Thats why I was thinking about a Xoom. I think i'm just going to bite the bullet and try out the N7. My local Walmart actually has them in stock! :O
     
  16. Jay Aristide

    Jay Aristide Well-Known Member

    You won't regret it, this tablet is AMAZING!

    Also, I noticed you said you hhave a PS3 and a 360, both of which have native Netflix apps... So, I guess my question is: What's the big deal if you can Netflix from a gaming device to your TV?
     
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  17. s2005

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    HBOgo...
     
  18. dautley

    dautley Android Expert

    Have they updated HBOgo? It wouldn't install on Jellybean for me last week .
     
  19. s2005

    s2005 Member
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    Just bought it, now time to tinker :D
     
  20. s2005

    s2005 Member
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    I can access the Amazon store right? Like to buy books for Kindle app?
     
  21. s2005

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    I'm on the n7 right now :)
    Got kindle working with the app.
    I think I need a new router... my internet is nasty slow :(
     
  22. breadnatty08

    breadnatty08 pain rustique

    Yep: Amazon.com: Appstore for Android
    Also, there's a standalone Kindle app in the Google Play store you can use. It will sync everything with your Amazon account.
     
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  23. s2005

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    Yeah I've noticed a few books and other items are cheaper in the Amazon app store than the Google Play Store.

    *Edit* This is a new issue, and I'll start a new thread about the Wifi issues.
     
  24. jer.lawrence

    jer.lawrence Member

    Staples also seems to have the 8Gb version around me.
     
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