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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by canonman, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. canonman

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    Hey guys,

    I love my nexus one, and last month while taking my dog for a walk, i lost my phone between the point of me taking the dog out the house and to the point of when i checked my phone.

    I lost my Nexus on a pathway which runs all the way to an old salt mine... to cut a long story short, i rang my insurance company and told them i had lost it the next day

    I went through the claim process and they dispatched a new nexus one to me.

    A month later walking my dog down the same path, i spot my nexus one! Virtually intact! thank god for that case...

    So my question now, i know its sneaky would the phone company know i have 2 (I would like to give my gf one)

    1) when i left the house with my original nexus one the batt was 30% i rang the insurance next day the phone would have died since then - thus having no power, so no signal is ammited?

    2) Android being a open OS would it be possible to run a custom ROM on the phone, would it still be traceable?

    Or is the whole thing impossible ?

    Thanks for any help. would rather keep it then give it back :)
     

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  2. ap3604

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    Insurance fraud is a felony brotha...

    Heres a link to answer questions on it: Insurance Fraud is a Felony

    You just don't know what type of tracing programs they have since it's such a big deal. I wouldn't mess around with getting a felony over $500 man... reminds me of how drug dealers think :rolleyes:
     
  3. mcapozzi

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    Dude, people reactivate stolen iPhones at AT&T all the freaking time. Nobody ever gets in trouble, even if the original owner tracks it down, Apple and AT&T have NO responsibility for returning the stolen device to its proper owner.

    Unless YOU put some sort of tracking software on there, there won't be any insurance investigation. You are the only person who will ever be looking for that phone. Just pop your gf's SIM card in and you should be good to go.

    Insurance companies have already profited greatly from the premiums of all their customers that never, ever file a claim. They aren't looking in the woods for lost cell phones. Just don't ever use the SIM card that was in there. I'd go ahead and put that SIM in the microwave if I were you (5 seconds ought to do it).

    Same goes for laptops, the only ones who get caught with a stolen laptop are the ones too dumb to wipe the thing before re-connecting to the Internet, or not clever enough to change the MAC address of the network card.

    -Mike

    PS - It isn't fraud because you honestly lost the phone, heck the one you found "might" not really be yours. Perhaps you bought it on Craigslist, or at a flea market, or on eBay (hint hint).
     
  4. Talderon

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    Depends on how this was handled by Google or the Carrier.

    If they black listed the ESN, then it won't work or will get you in trouble if turned on and put on the network.

    If not, then it is your choice on if you want to chance it at all.
     
  5. fuzio1963

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    Just keep it!! Same thing has happened to my dughter's G1. She lost it, i called Asuron, got new phone, after 2 months we found the old one. Both are working with no problem since then (last year).
    Yet, i would love a Nexus One for 130 bucks :rolleyes:
     
  6. DellyBelly

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    Probably could get away with it; however this is why we get raped with insurance and they never want to pay out in the first place.

    You paid for insurance and they lived up to their end and so should you.
     
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  7. mcapozzi

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    Yeah, just ask them innocently about the status of the phone's IEMI (GSM version of ESN) number. Just tell them you want to activate a phone on their service and you want to know if it is clean before you buy the phone off of Craigslist, or eBay.

    Just don't give them your name, or call them from a phone that can be traced back to you.

    Don't worry about the "poor" insurance company, they aren't hurting any.

    -Mike
     
  8. ap3604

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    Sounds like god awful advice for the kid :rolleyes:

    Might as well say:
    ---- "Hey, while your at it, why not just do it again! Yeah... just "lose" your Nexus One again and sell it for profit once you get the replacement! Nobody ever gets in trouble for insurance fraud right?"
     
  9. mcapozzi

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    My apologies your eminence, I'm sure you never, ever, ever lied or broke any rule. You've bought every song and every movie, you don't speed, you didn't drink prior to legal age...etc etc etc

    I just love how some people get all "holier than thou" when someone asks for advice.

    This person isn't twelve, spare me the "protect the children" B.S.

    Nobody ever said, go into business making false insurance claims, all I said was it doesn't hurt to play dumb and see if your carrier has flagged the IEMI.

    Pious people are almost always hypocrites...

    -Mike
     
  10. DellyBelly

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    The fact that the person is asking means his better judgment says to just let them know and do the right thing.

    I personally am no saint and have done my share of shady dealings, but I would never give someone advice to do this because it's just not right; not to mention it's a forum so you have no real interest in his well being outside of a username.

    If the OP really wants good advice, ask your real life friends; maybe he'll get the same answer; but at least he can be sure they have some shred of concern about him.
     
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  11. ap3604

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    Your apologies are accepted :)

    Now if I want to download an MP3 or speed, cool... then it's on me and I'll accept the consequences if I get caught. But for cryin' out loud DONT start telling people that everything is fine, nothing will happen, and no one ever gets in trouble for doing illegal stuff.

    If you actually cared about the kid then cool, but you don't so keep the knowledge of how to get away with felonies to yourself :rolleyes:
     
  12. Slug

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    Android Forums policy is not to encourage or appear to encourage any sort of fraudulent activity. As even discussion of such things could be taken as "advice" by the unscrupulous, we discourage threads such as this. It's safer all round.
     
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