COVID-19 and Politics. The CIVIL edition.

not overly contagious???????

alleged virus?????? my friend's mom is in a nursing home here in L.A. and she can't visit her because of staff members and a few who live there has contracted the virus. Ask her if this thing is alleged or not. IT'S REAL. just because you have not been in contact with the virus does not mean it is not real.

almost 100,000 people are dead!!!!!!!

here is the thing, this virus can go undetected. you could have it and not know it. you can easily pass it on to your friends and family without realizing it. it is not always about you. it is about your fellow neighbors. it is about your community. without the lockdown, things could have been a lot worse.

what is it with people who are against the lockdown? they are always worried about themselves and not others???? its the me! me! me! attitude i do not get. yes i understand the frustration. yes i understand the hardship it is creating. yes i understand a lot of people are out of work. but this is what is needed to protect everyone.

you say those numbers do not add up. you know why? because most people are social distancing. those people are wearing masks. those people are staying at home. can you imagine if everyone did not do those things? those numbers would be sky high.

please do us all a favor listen to the scientists and doctors. they are not politicians. they only care about you and your health. please stay at home. and if you go out wear a mask and practice social distancing.

and lastly don't do those things for you, do it for you friends, your neighbors, and for your family.

 

Apparently in this person's case the problem is that he's not had a shag recently, and risking other people's lives is unimportant in comparison.

That was a paraphrase, but here are the exact words:

I do love the description of 4% mortality (4,800 out of 125,000, to use numbers from the post) as "not overly deadly". If you maintain that average and let it infect the whole USA that's 13 million deaths. Of course it won't infect everyone, but this is why the models concluded that without such measures you'd face ~2 million deaths if everyone was able to receive all medical treatment, i.e. not including the effects of medical services being overwhelmed - the reality would be worse. And yes, at present the fraction of people who've been infected is not large: 125k out of 700k positives is higher than the population incidence because they are not testing the whole population, they are concentrating on people at most risk or showing symptoms. But the reason it's as low as it is is because most people are listening to the advice: ignore the facts, do as you please, and it gets a lot worse. Just be thankful that it doesn't have the lethality of SARS (20% mortality), because if we get one as infectious as this and as lethal as that we are in serious trouble.

But let's be honest, the telling bit is where this person talks about the "so-called virus". That tells me that he has been listening to the conspiracists and accepting at least some of what they say. I understand how that may be attractive, because it's a more comforting story than the reality, but when dealing with an epidemic rejecting reality is not merely a sign of weakness, it's also dangerous, to yourself or to others. And as someone who knows a lot of medics, including some in my family, who are exposing themselves to this risk every day and have lost colleagues to it, and as someone who has had friends hospitalised by it (thankfully none died so far), I can tell you that the idea that this is some international conspiracy is not only nonsense, it is offensive nonsense.

 

Did someone say Chicago?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...hurch_services_for_distancing_violations.html

 

i'm sorry any article siting Breit barf as a source of info should be discredited. i stopped reading as soon i saw that bit of info.

 

You're free to do what you wish.

 

So to reduce that post to 10 words: a police officer who doesn't care about protecting the public.

I'm not wasting any more time on this thread.

 

I found this BBC news article interesting.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52815552
"Mr Trump on Wednesday threatened to "strongly regulate" or even "close down" social media platforms."

That's what the communist govt does here in China.

Good luck USA!!

 

I'm not expert on US politics of course, but as understand the POTUS can make an Executive Order and it happens, e.g. he wants to strongly regulate social media in the US.

 

Perhaps he wants political parity, from the media.

Consider this, from NBC.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna895471

 

@Caryboy60013 what kind of officer are you? One who does not care about his fellow citizens, obviously. I'm sorry but I can't be civil if you are not willing to protect and serve.

Like @Hadron said...... I'm done with this thread.

It's pointless trying to explain how viruses work and spread to a really thick wall.

Edit: if this is how you choose to live...... please do not visit California and even better yet STAY AWAY FROM LOS ANGELES. We have problems of our own and we do not need another douche bag making things worse.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients

 

for those who do not trust fox news, here's a more reliable source:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

for me i will wear one when i go out in public, not to protect me, but more for the respect of others. i will adhere to any store policy that says you must wear a mask.

 

AS @ocnbrze says - Me too.

 

Me, me, me, me, me ,me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

One more ID law.
No, required ID to vote isn't really necessary, but you gotta have one to eat.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/washingto...nts-log-eat-customers-order/story?id=70663870

 

Does that include a right to riot, arson, and loot? I'm thinking of very recent events in Minneapolis.

 

FWIW around here, in Jinan, we seem to have got past the "everyone must wear a mask" stage. The schools, colleges and unis fully open and operating normally, all students, teachers, and other staff are here, and hardly anyone is wearing a mask on campus. There are still some places that require a mask, like supermarkets, so most will keep a mask with them, which seems to be either hanging around their necks or put in a pocket.

However, everyone at my school is still required to take and report their body temperature daily. And all dorms entrances have thermal scanning cameras.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/6/212821...orld-health-organization-guidelines-cloth-n95
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ho-in-update-of-covid-19-advice-idUSKBN23C27Y