thanks. I did notice that things do seem to be speeding up. going from an htc kaiser to the incredible so a big speed upgrade. 600mhz or something like that I think lol. I've played around with android on my kaiser using Nand and while windows mobile can be pretty sexy android still blows it out of the water for performance. Eye candy isn't bad either. Disappointed about froyo delayed till Christmas though. Rooting time once it gets here I guess.