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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by rushmore, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Due to the amount of apps coming out, it would be nice if the Thunder has at least 2gb of storage (and no ridiculous 135mb data/data cap like the Incredible). In regards to total app space, apps2sd only helps cover about 60% of the total for app space.

    Incredible has 748mb, but you have to also balance the data/data folder too, since it can not have more than 135mb (get out of space error, just like if out of device storage space).

    On the Inc, you could have 500mb storage free, but if the data/data folder has more than 135mb in it- OUT OF SPACE error.

    I monitor with Root Explorer and uninstall any apps that like to dump a lot of data in that folder. Added: I hope the dumb a** that created this contraint is NOT working on Thunderbolt firmware.

    Of course, whatever they allocate for device space takes away from the "8gb" internal storage.
     



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  2. dajogejr

    dajogejr Member

    **Edit...I see you're asking about App Space specifically, NM***
     
  3. dm33

    dm33 Android Enthusiast

    This makes me worry about HTC. HTC seems to continue the old cell phone thinking. You bought it, you're stuck with it. We're not going to lift a finger to fix really stupid mistakes in the phone. You don't like it? Buy a new phone.

    Its exactly that attitude that makes people flock to the iPhone. Apple tries hard to fix the user experience and avoid really stupid things like a 135MB limit on a device with 6GB of built in storage. I can't express how disappointed I am with HTC and Google. Makes the phone unusable as a smartphone if you can't run more than a few apps.

    Is there a way to fix it if rooted?
     
  4. chrstdvd

    chrstdvd Android Enthusiast

    Would someone enplane this better? What exactly are you talking about? Are you saying that the phone can have 8 gig of storage, but only uses 135 mb for working apps at a time.

    I want a TBolt but I do not want to get "screwed" with app storage like I did with the BB Storm 1.
     
  5. vinylfreak89

    vinylfreak89 Member

    Potentially.... let me explain a little bit about the different types of storage though. Just because the phone has 8 GB of internal storage does not mean it can all be used for app storage. The internal storage is actually different block devices (read: internal SD Cards....I'm not going to get in to the specific of a NAND partition vs an eMMC) and different devices have different access speeds. The /data partition on the incredible is part of the eMMC block device that operates at a lower speed, more around the rate of an SD Card which is ok for long term storage like apk files (apps) It is ~ 748 MB. Technically you could resize the partition table since this is just cut out of a chunk of the eMMC. The /data/data folder however a NAND block device. NAND devices are much faster than eMMCs so this makes it an ideal place to store frequently used application data and settings. Again you could potentially resize this partition by messing with the size of the /system and /cache partitions (which are also part of the NAND block device) but unless you really know what you are doing this could lead to huge problems.

    The other, easier way to "fix" this problem is to create a symlink. Any apps that take up a large chunk of /data/data... just copy the folder to the eMMC and create a linux symlink (this is assuming you have root)... the downside is that app will operate much slower and more laggy since it is not running off of the fast NAND block device. So its a trade off. You also will have to manually fix permissions, etc or run a script to do such.

    As far as what the bolt comes with, no way to know until someone gets a device in their hands.

    Of course there are other, more tested methods like apps2sd, cache2cache etc, but again you need root.

    I have over 150 apps on my incredible and never run in to this low space issue. Then again I use AOSP ROMs and dont have HTC bloatware ;)
     
  6. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Inc has 8gb internal storage, but 748mb allocated for device app storage and 6.6gb for internal media storage. What does the Thunderbolt have?

    Needs at least 2gb allocated for apps (if gaming will be taken seriously). Gtablet has that and seems to work out well. Then again, the Gtablet has 13.3 gb for media storage (16gb vs 8gb in the Inc).
     

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