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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Re4son, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. Re4son

    Re4son Member
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  2. clb

    clb Well-Known Member

    I want to talk to these "sources" haha. I hope this is wrong :) Verizon needs this phone.
  3. Noga

    Noga Newbie

    Why would Verizon turn down the most cutting-edge Android device after making a deal with Google specifically to receive exclusive devices?
  4. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

    Unless they have something better or equivalent on the way!
  5. alamoe

    alamoe Android Enthusiast

    Because they're "Verizon." I think Google wants to get the publicity from this phone. Verizon doesn't really like to share the spotlight. They only want people to focus on "the Network." As bad as it sounds TMO may be the only ones willing to take a chance on Google's "experiment" because they know they can't compete on the network side.
  6. kabbie_mcfeely

    kabbie_mcfeely Android Enthusiast

    The Google Nexus One is not a Verizon, Sprint, T-Mo or AT&T device.

    The Google Nexus One is a Google device. Google had HTC build the device, as Google doesnt have a phone factory.

    The Google Nexus One will not be "carrier specific". It will be unlocked to work on some carriers.
  7. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

    I intend to enter no argument with you again...I'm just stating that this thread makes a direct point about a quote in this article:
  8. Re4son

    Re4son Member
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    you say it wont be "carrier specific" yet say it will be unlocked to only work on "some" carriers. how does that make sense? to me its carrier specific if it doesn't play nice with everyone.
  9. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

    Especially when it really only plays nice with one. Will be only able to get 2g speeds on ATT from what I've heard.
  10. kabbie_mcfeely

    kabbie_mcfeely Android Enthusiast

    To quote a quote ...
    Thats why it will only work on some carriers. Makes perfect sense. Verizon didnt want to play, so they didnt get picked.
  11. Re4son

    Re4son Member
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    ya thats why im saying kabbie_mcfeely's theory is wrong. well maybe not WRONG since we dont have solid proof there wont be multiple models. 1 gsm for tmobile and att and 1 cdma for sprint and verizon. its easier to test on gsm models so that could explain why only gsm variations are roaming around. the info in the 2.1 rom leak is about the brightest glimmer of hope cdma users have.

    it would make since though that verizon turned them down, they did it before with the iphone. maybe verizon didnt like the idea of having an unlocked handset that can be used with competing companies. tmobile makes perfect sense to me for supporting this device seeing as how they are the only one of the big 4 that offers non contract plans. tmobile was also the 1st to take a chance on android with the g1.
  12. rdalcanto

    rdalcanto Android Enthusiast

    No need for Verizon to accept an unlocked Google phone when they have a beautiful HTC Passion with SenseUI coming out in a month.... (I hope!!!)
  13. Re4son

    Re4son Member
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    the thing is, from what i understand, this google phone IS the HTC Passion/HTC Dragon. it looks EXACTLY the same as the first leaked picture of the Passion. some say the HTC Bravo is the same as these too but i dont know about that.
  14. wonderbread

    wonderbread Android Enthusiast

    I don't buy in to the idea that google is preparing to sell phones them selves; however, your logic is sound - Why would VZ go with google unlocked when they can just place an order with HTC.
  15. rdalcanto

    rdalcanto Android Enthusiast

    The Eris IS the Hero, with some minor cosmetic changes, and yet it is on two competing providers, is it not? You think HTC is going to spend $$$ on R&D on a highly anticipated, highly desired, snapdragon, Android phone, and then offer only one version of it to one provider?
  16. kabbie_mcfeely

    kabbie_mcfeely Android Enthusiast

    My comments are in BOLD.

    Google to launch its own Nexus One phone running Android next year, maybe | Technology | guardian.co.uk
    The Google Phone or Gphone has been rumoured for a long time, and while many of us have doubted its existence until now, the evidence is mounting up. Numerous Google staff are actually using an unbranded Gphone, and pictures of it have been posted via Twitter. It's called the Nexus One, it runs Google Android, obviously, and it's being manufactured for Google by HTC, which is already well known for making Android and Windows Mobile phones.

    HTC built the phone for Google They did not build it for _____ carrier.

    Google's Mobile blog says staff are "dogfooding" the device (a term that has long been standard at Microsoft). It says: "We recently came up with the concept of a mobile lab, which is a device that combines innovative hardware from a partner with software that runs on Android to experiment with new mobile features and capabilities, and we shared this device with Google employees across the globe. This means they get to test out a new technology and help improve it."

    And I'd bet one of the things they're testing is Google Voice, which was the application Apple refused to allow on the iPhone. It remains to be seen whether Apple will back down, because freedom from that kind of control could be one of the Gphone's attractions.
    Reproducing an image posted to Twitpic by Cory O'Brien (coryobrien.com), Engadget notes:
    the image above is an exact match to that leaked HTC Passion / Bravo image from October, only this time lacking the HTC logo on the top-side bezel. Besides the pic, O'Brien tweets that the "Google Phone = iPhone + a little extra screen and a scroll wheel. Great touch screen, and Android."
    It's not clear how the sales pitch is going to go, but the idea is that the Gphone will be sold direct to consumers, not via a network contract. This could make it look expensive, because the hardware will not be subsidised by overcharging for mobile phone calls. (Quite why a smartphone with a 3-4 inch screen costs roughly twice as much as a netbook with a 10 inch screen and a hard drive is still a mystery to me, but it does.)
    However, network operators will be able to get around this problem very easily by offering contracts with discounted minutes on "Bring your own Gphone" deals.

    The Nexus One will be sold directly to consumers. That means it will not be a "carrier" device.

    Google could also make the Nexus One available reasonably cheaply because it will make money from the Google advertising that users will see when they use Google "properties" such as search, Gmail, YouTube, and so on. There could also be plenty of money-making opportunities in location-based services, such as directing users to the nearest eatery, bank, or whatever. It would be interesting to know what the lifetime value of a Gphone user might be, but Google must have done some calculations.

    "Cheaply" sounds good to me.

    Although some blogs and magazines have confidently suggested the Nexus One will be launched in January, bear in mind there has been no official announcement, just a lot of speculation. But it is starting to look as though Google might be serious.

    I still hope it does come next month.


    Nexus One: The Google Phone Has a Name
  17. CardinalFan22

    CardinalFan22 Newbie

    phones keep shooting out like crazy lately when this phone releases the droid is going be old news to some people and i just bought the droid.. oh well i cant keep my fingers of my droid so much potenial:eek:
  18. wonderbread

    wonderbread Android Enthusiast

    kabbie your just taking snippets from blogs that do not know anything more than we do. That last link for instance that "confirms" Google will sell phones direct, was written by "Pete Cashmore" from "the social media guide" which cites such credible sources as, "the people who know about it" and "our sources". As Engadget points out (and how I hate giving them credit for an editorial), WSJ is not going on any hard evidence either. HTC has put lots of R&D into this phone and they didn't do it all just to sell a handfull to Google's employees. The fact that the initial pics of the passion had the "HTC" logo on it indicates that HTC intends to sell a branded version as well, supposedly to carriers as is traditionally done.
  19. kabbie_mcfeely

    kabbie_mcfeely Android Enthusiast

    Ok. How about the Wall Street Jornal ???

    Thats not a blog.

    Google Set To Market Own Phone Next Year

    Google to Start Selling Own Phone Without Wireless Partner by Next Year - WSJ.com


    Google Inc. plans to begin selling a cellphone directly to consumers as soon as next year, people familiar with the matter said, escalating the Internet giant's assault on the traditional business model of the wireless industry.
    The phone, called Nexus One, was designed inside Google and will be sold, at least initially, without being subsidized by a wireless partner, these people said. It is the latest sign of the Internet giant's ever-broadening wireless ambitions as Google hunts for ways to expand its Internet services beyond computers. The move, details of which were first reported by The Wall Street Journal on ...
  20. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

    I hope you're right my friend!

    I read in one of the blogs that it may even cause companies to drop Android because they would be not only using Google's OS but competing with them at the same time. It would be an OBVIOUS unfair advantage because Google would have the inside advantage to pairing there OS with their own hardware. Not to mention if you were Google and you were making your own phones with your OS and someone came along and wanted to use it too...would you give them EVERYTHING you developed. (referring to FUTURE versions of the OS) And the same with other companies. Could you then trust Google still to be fair with their product they're selling you, If you're their direct competitor now. Just a little something to think about...

    And If you were Verizon would you want your BIG DEBUT "DROID" LINE to start with a year old Hero "remake" , and a 1 month cutting edge phone that will soon fizzle out. (Give it a month)
  21. whitey522

    whitey522 Newbie

    I was under the impression that "unlocked" phones were done using a sim card, thus making it incompatible with Verizon. Although that is something an ATT guy would say to whoo me over. This Nexus One thing is for Google. We know that. The Passion is for Verizon (last i checked). I personally think it would be silly for Verizon to be considering these two quite similar phones (again last i checked isn't everything rumors now?) in the same general timeframe. It's just in general not good marketing to release two like products close to each other. So if this Nexus One is indeed a unlocked Google phone then Verizon is pretty smart for not supporting it as it could draw sales away from the Passion. (this is my opinion based on what I THINK I've seen but if anyone can correct me I'll be sure to reevaluate my position.
  22. Y314K

    Y314K Well-Known Member

  23. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

  24. Phydeaux

    Phydeaux Android Enthusiast

    You can't turn down something that isn't available to you. All signs point to nexus being a GSM device.
  25. alamoe

    alamoe Android Enthusiast

    Actually, that would be just like VZW; look at the big push they put into the launch of their BB Curve(which some other carriers had for almost a year), and the first BB Storm(which no one else wanted). I think the Droid is the first device they've had that wasn't on other carriers first, well, besides the Storm.

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