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Did verizon just say no to nexus one?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Re4son, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. SoCalMiles

    SoCalMiles Well-Known Member

    Thank you! I'm gonna post that in my "FURIOUS" thread. For all those people who say "Haven't you guys got enough!"
     



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  2. Y314K

    Y314K Well-Known Member

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  4. SoCalMiles

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  6. wonderbread

    wonderbread Android Enthusiast

  7. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    if these "sources" are right this phone is gonna cost $400-500. I say thanks, but no thanks to that crap.
     
  8. clb

    clb Well-Known Member

    I have been on all these forums and tech sites all day and it's driving me crazy. I hope some solid information comes out this week so we all can have some peace.
     
  9. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    The BB Storm, exclusive to Verizon has a SIM card. unlocked simply means taking a phone already active on a carrier and taking it off the carrier.
     
  10. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    Another thing to consider is this. Supposedly Google was going to all the major carriers and the reason they went GSM only (which is dumb) is because Verizon turned them down. Well isn't Sprint the second largest (if not 2nd then 3rd) carrier in terms of subscribers? Does that mean Sprint turned them down as well?
    Basically from what has been said so far the proposistion from Google was "Hey help us sell these phones and be tier 1 support for them, but they wont use your plans and you want get a piece of the sale". Tmobile must be desperate for subscribers.
     
  11. choffy21

    choffy21 Member

    Yes they are last in terms of subscribers. But in terms of quality of service (both customer and product), they rank second, only behind Verizon. Plus with T-Mobile's new HSPA+ network (7.2 Mbps) expected to launch late 2009/early 2010, I can see why Google is willing to put it's faith in T-Mobile.
     
  12. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    My point is more along the lines of why pick the smallest consumer base, exclude the top two or two of the top 3 consumer bases for a phone thats gonna cost probably $500 (the android dev phone 1 costs $400) if you plan on getting alot of people to buy it? This doesn't seem like a strategy for business success. Unless its just meant to be an elitist device, which it almost has to be if its going to work off of wifi.
     
  13. march7th

    march7th Newbie

    Because GSM has like a 90% marketshare world wide. A lot more people can use and buy this device
     
  14. choffy21

    choffy21 Member

    Took the words right out of my mouth.
     
  15. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    So people the world over are going to call Tmobile US for Tier 1 support? Somehow I think not. Nor has anything been said about world wide availability (and google ADP are not available in every country or even all of the european union, more like 18 countries). So again we're back to talking about the US.
     
  16. clb

    clb Well-Known Member

  17. march7th

    march7th Newbie

    26 Countries total for Android Market. That is just for the market alone. The platform sells on devices in more countries than just these. And the nice part about GSM you can import if you don't have a carrier that sells Android devices
    Supported locations for distributing applications - Android Market Help

    Countries that have T-Mobile
    T-Mobile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Countries that have Verizon Wireless 1
    Verizon Wireless - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Anyway... all but a couple reports I have personally seen list this as an unlocked device that is not selling through any carrier.

    Also a huge down side of CDMA is that voice and data do not work at the same time.
     
  18. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    People unable to reas a post, 1. Again people From Japan, Korea, India, Taiwan and France (these countries being part of the 18 that Google will sell ADP's to) are going to call Tmobile US (which is who the deal is to provide tier 1 support)? Billing support being completely different from free apps distribution.
    If the deal was with Tmobile world wide there would not be mentions of tmobile but Deutsche Telecom. The same way Vodaphone would have had to turn down the Nexus and not Verizon. Number of countries Vodafone operates in? 31. Number of continents Tmobile operates in? 1 Number of continents Vodafone operates in? 5 Total subscribers for Tombile? 150 million. Total subscribers for Vodafone? 300+ million.
    Hence the deal is for the US, not world wide.
    Vodafone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Developing on a Device | Android Developers
     
  19. march7th

    march7th Newbie

    Exactly where in that article on the op do you see anything about this phone being sold through t-mobile and tier 1 support being provided by them? All it says it that it works on GSM which is only available in the US on T-Mobile or AT&T. Talk about not reading and it also is spelled read not reas. There is not enough information about this device out yet for people to start freaking out about it. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Verizon did turn it down since they turned down the iPhone when Apple originally approached them.


    Here is a much better article about this:
    http://www.androidguys.com/2009/12/...roidguyscom+(AndroidGuys)&utm_content=Twitter
     
  20. march7th

    march7th Newbie


    Yes you also should read because Vodafone does not solely own and operate Verizon Wireless it is a joint venture between Vodafone and Verizon Communications. Deutsche Telekom is T-Mobile it's the same company

    And back to what I said earlier GSM has like a 90% Market share world wide. If you were going to make a device like this would you want it available to 90% of the world or 10%?
     
  21. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Android Expert

    "But, so far, only T-Mobile has agreed to consider it and actively help push the phone via various distribution channels and support infrastructure, I
     
  22. Nashdroid

    Nashdroid Android Expert

    I think Verizon didn't turn down this phone because they didn't want to release two phones that were similar that close together. I believe that what they turned down was the whole "unlocked" concept. They opted for the normal way of doing things and are going to be getting an HTC branded version of the same phone with Sense UI. That's what I now believe. Verizon didn't turn down the phone, they turned down the way in which Google was wanting to sell it. I think it was a good idea to turn it down. That way Verizon will still get the hardware, it will just be a HTC and Verizon branded unit and it will be more free to have other enhancements on it such as HTC's Sense UI. To have Sense UI it has to be HTC branded, apparently. However, I could be wrong and Verizon could be getting some version of the Bravo. However, to me it's looking like Verizon will just be getting a subsidized version of the Passion that will be HTC branded and it will be SWEET! That's just my theory for now. I'm sure it will change tomorrow. haha
     
  23. Nashdroid

    Nashdroid Android Expert

    If Google knew that making this device a GSM device would be a no-brainer and they knew how SMART it would be to use GSM because it has 90% market share world wide, then tell me this........WHY DID THEY GO TO VERIZON FIRST? Huh? They wanted Verizon. Am I wrong or isn't Verizon CDMA? The GSM being 90% market share world wide idea you're throwing out there is completely invalid, all simply because Google went to Verizon FIRST, a CDMA provider. Thank you. I think my work here is done.
     
  24. Re4son

    Re4son Member
    Thread Starter

    ummm verizon was first at what? having an android phone? no, that was tmobile.
     
  25. Nashdroid

    Nashdroid Android Expert

    No. Maybe you should do some research. The latest articles have said that Google came to Verizon first and offered them this new phone and they turned it down, that's why they went to AT&T and T-Mobile. Do a little more research and get back to me on that one. Thanks.
     

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