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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Cptmorgan, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Cptmorgan

    Cptmorgan Lurker
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    I've had my Galaxy Nexus for one week and I think I'm going to return it.

    The love the screen size, resolution and the software buttons on the Nexus. The only item I can't ignore is the "in call sound quality" It's terrible. The only way the person sounds good is to have the volume rocker all the way down but then you can hardly hear them. Once you turn it up one or two notches, you get minor distortion. It's sooo distracting and at times it can be hard to make out what someone says. I've never experienced this with my previous Moto phones.

    Has anyone switched to Razr after playing with the Nexus for a week? I feel because of the Nexus screen size, resolution and the smooth UI experience of ICS that I will be going backwards. I guess what I'm saying is will I be happy with the Razr after playing with ICS? I know the Razr is going to get ICS but will it be as smooth as the Nexus once it gets ICS? I played with my brothers Razr last night and it's a bit jerky compared to my Nexus.

    I hear that the in call quality of the Razr is much better, can anyone who has had the Nexus tell me your thoughts on the call quality comparison of the two?


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  2. Szadzik

    Szadzik Extreme Android User

    The Razr is already very smooth and it should be smooth with ICS IMO.

    As for replacing GNex wit hthe Razr - the moment GNex's specs were announced I decided it was not on par with other handsets and only had the advantage of fast updates and ICS right now, nothing else stands out and I started looking for something else. Got the Razr, and after 6 weeks I am still perfectly happy with it.
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  3. tadpole88

    tadpole88 Lurker

    I am thinking of getting rid of my RAZR and getting the Gnex and my primary reason is that MOTO and Verizon will not fix the Mobile Hotspot Issue that both companies are well aware of.

    I may even go for a Droid Bionic because have heard rumors that the radio reception or signal strength is not as good as the Moto products. I currently also have a Samsung Omnia 2 and have never had a problem with it. So who knows.
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  4. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    If anything, the Razr is smoother, due in part to the lower res qHD display, which IMO is a better fit for current chipsets.

    Observations from testing both devices:

    Feel in hand = Gnex
    Display quality = Gnex, but not by much
    Touch response = Razr
    Battery life = Razr
    Call quality = Razr
    Speed = Razr
    Phone radio reception = Razr
    Wifi reception = Razr
    Build = Razr
    Storage = Razr
    Sound quality from 3.5mm = tie
    Speaker = Razr
    Camera = Too subjective, but seem about equal now

    IMO, the only two things the Gnex has leverage are battery options and ICS, but the latter goes away in the next few months. Factor in Webtop functionality and the Razr trumps the Gnex even more.

    Added: If leaning towards hardcore rooting (of which quite are few a very vocal in another forum), Gnex has appeal, in spite of the points above. Just depends on what the user prefers as far as priorities. Good luck though, driving in the boonies with the Gnex, pending a non placebo (as far as reception) radio update.
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  5. Podivin

    Podivin Android Expert

    I swapped my 3 day old GNex for a Razr today. The GNex was a great phone, except for one rather important item - it couldn't hold a connection. I would never have a 4G connection when I was at home, and often wouldn't have a 3G connection. In the last 3 days I saw 'no data connection' several time, having never seen a comparable message on my Droid Incredible. I took it back to the store (a Verizon authorized dealer, not a corporate store, they give great service there). I told him my problem and he said that the Samsung phones have had iffy radios on all of their smart phones. I was leaning towards an HTC Rezound when I finally got smart and asked him what he thought I should get. He showed me the Razr that he uses personally and said 'this' - so I did.
    I've only had the Razr for a few hours now, but I can already see that it's holding a 1 or 2 bar 4G connection at home, where the GNex had none.
    Note that I am NOT saying the Gnex is a bad phone, it had many very cool features, but for ME the Razr seems like it's going to work better.
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  6. dco717

    dco717 Member

    Im willing to trade my razr for a galaxy nexus...its alot better than paying restocking fees and upgrade prices
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  7. dco717

    dco717 Member

    My razr has this issue so its probably a verizon issue..they have had plenty this month.
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  8. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    What mho is referring to is the weak reception of the Gnex (1X in 3G areas and 3G in 4G areas or worse).

    The Verizon issue is data connection drops. The signal still shows good dBm and bars, but no signal. Two different things and the data drops are impacting (to some degree) all devices, but mainly 4G devices. The bad thing though is folks are getting wrong information and assuming the current data drop issue Verizon is having is the same issue as the Gnex- it is not.

    Some folks assuming this will go past their return period and once Verzon fixes the network issues, Gnex users will still have weak reception and the issues mho is mentioning.

    If you live and travel much in areas without good to strong signal, the Gnex probably is not the best phone option.
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  9. Podivin

    Podivin Android Expert

    Correct. I did not make it clear that I'm in a low signal area, especially inside my house. Go a block in any direction and the signal is noticeably better on any phone I've had. My wife's DInc was connected and working when the Gnex was not, so clearly not a Verizon issue.
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  10. Trooper

    Trooper Android Expert

    I too am thinking about getting (or at least trying) a Gnex. My problem with this Razr (2nd one) is that it to will frequently drop data connections, this includes wifi as well). The update last week made no difference and it still has that verizon locator agent chewing up battery life (unless I freeze it which is ridiculous). I've done a factory reset and all and still no go.

    Contacted VZW support and they pretty much had md do what I already had done.

    The Razr is an awesome phone no doubt. Love the screen, call quality etc but for some reason this phone just likes to drop data. My first one, data seemed to be fine (except for wifi where it drops constantly). My new one drops wifi a lot as well.

    I guess I can try again for the old third times a charm but not sure that I want to. Especially since the phone is not getting much love from the devs yet and the Gnex is getting it all.

    Either way, it all depends on what works for you and what is best for you. Will let you guys know what I end up with.


    I should note that I am in a strong 4G area at my job and at home, so its not like Im in the boonies.
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  11. you2

    you2 Android Expert

    From what I have read - one of the problems associated with data drop is authentication and if authentication fails for any reason the connection drops; so it could in fact still be a verizon issue even if your wife's phone is working fine. It would be good if the phones would clearly indicate if the issue is signal or rejection (I suppose there is a kernel log somewhere that actually indicates what happened but not sure what tools are required to see view the log). Take this with a grain of salt because it is putting together alot of different comments from different sources but it sounds like verizon has a bit of a fragile system used to determine if a connection is valid and (perhaps worse) they frequently re-authenticate the device so even if you have a solid connection it can still be dropped. Unfortuantely I doubt that verizon is willing to explain the details given the nature of the issue.

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  12. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    All VZW devices are running into the issue, though 4G devices even more so, and the hotspot issue is far more likely to be fixed on the Razr, than the reception on the Gnex.

    Razr issue is a software correction, but the Gnex appears to have a weak radio system design (not software). Still, best to pick the device that you will like the most. So far, the only people I know that do not like their Gnex are media junkies like me and those that live in less than good coverage areas.

    A lot do not like the touch response, but are hoping for a software fix. Gnex has multi touch issues ATM.
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  13. soba1

    soba1 Well-Known Member

    Call reliability is better on the Razr. Also do a youtube search on Razr Vs GN and set the time frame to as recent as possible. You will see the difference. The specs on the phone are great. But it really wasn't quiiite ready for primetime yet
  14. Trooper

    Trooper Android Expert

    I hear you man. I am a big Moto fan (going back years) so I am torn on this decision. But I also like to root and rom and sadly until we get recovery files, there is not much dev work going on with the Razr. If the Razr had an unlocked bootloader, Im sure many of us would be running stock ICS already.

    But I do live in good 4G coverage area so we'll see. If its that bad I can always change it up again and come back to a Razr since the Rezound does not interest me at all.
  15. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    Razr has recovery now. Posted over at XDA.
  16. Trooper

    Trooper Android Expert

    Yeah its been out for awhile. Trouble is no roms really. And if you softbrick your hosed.
  17. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    Good point. I am biased anyway, since see no need to rom anymore. I did with the G1 and Incredible, but as long as I can freeze bloat, I have been happy with the Droid 3 and Razr with the stock roms. Not seeing the value add to rom anymore, but my own perspective and opinion.

    Would rather have a devise with speed, great signal, good battery life, call quality, etc., than just focus on the rom options. I can easily see why others would see differently.

    Then again, if I can not root at all- I am with you.
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