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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by darco, May 3, 2011.

  1. darco

    darco Lurker
    Thread Starter

    My trusty Creative Zen died on me (my fault, water bottle leaked on to it!).
    So I was thinking a getting a 32g micro sd card and moving my albums to it.
    How well does the DINC hold up as an mp3 player? What happens when a call comes in,does the call take precedent?
    Hows the battery life? How does DINC manage the mp3's?
    thanks
    darco
     



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  2. olbriar

    olbriar  
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    I'm glad you asked lol. I, too, had and cherished a zen player. Mine went South over a year ago however. That being said, you will love your tunes on your incredible. I have used the stock player for near a year now and have had no problems with it. There are some that think there are better players to be had on the market... I use a bluetooth stereo headset to stream my tunes to me daily without a major, if even noticeable, battery consumption. The Dinc behaves just as you would want. A notification will interrupt you tune and then continue playing. You know you have a txt or email but aren't annoyed about it. An incoming call will stop your music and it's notification ring tone will play. You answer your call and your music patiently waits on you to finish. You end your call.. your music auto starts exactly where it paused before the call. It is the same when placing a call. No need to stop the player, it auto stops. When the call is completed. whala....music. As I stated, I stream my tunes via bluetooth but I'm sure the player would work the same with stereo sets jacked in.

    You can set your library to sync with your Dinc for ease of keeping a current library on your phone. I do not care to auto sync and prefer to just change my installed library once in a while. They are easy enough to port over to the Dinc.. copy via the usb port.

    The best part of the Dinc over the Zen is it's bluetooth ability. No more fuss with wires etc. Though I loved my Zen.. and Creative should have had the bullish share of the ipod market in my opinion. More storage for less money and not married to itunes made it a far superior device. But with the added bluetooth of the Dinc.. the phone resides in my pocket... I stream stereo tunes to the headset... answer calls.. adjust volume.. skip to the next tune.. etc all from a flick of a finger on the headset.

    I highly recommend the Dinc as your mp3 player. Two devices in one can't be beat.
     
  3. offanairplane

    offanairplane Android Enthusiast

    Excellent answer!


    I'd just like to add a couple of points.

    1. I use mine hardwired into my car stereo all the time, and it does work exactly the same way as you described for Bluetooth.

    2. I use mine even for DJ'ing small event sometimes, and when I don't want a call interrupting the music, I just put it on airplane mode, and then that isn't a problem.

    I only have the 16Gb card, but I am able to put plenty of tunes on it.
    I have an 80Gb 5th generation iPod video, and it mostly collects dust nowadays.
     
  4. DodgerinNH

    DodgerinNH Well-Known Member

    I took the plunge and got the 32Gb card, but do beware that ALOT of the 32 Gb cards (like the ones on Ebay) are fakes. I learned the hard way. Eventually I got one that's legitimate and everything's fine now.

    I had some issues with the stock music player from the launch date (mainly laggy and some force closes) so I switched to MixZing Pro and it's been great. WinAmp also has a free player which looks pretty good (that's what I use on my PC)

    Considering I can listen to over 4300 songs from my phone anytime I want, I would say you're on the right track in looking to consolidate. Good luck!!
     
  5. mykd99

    mykd99 Member

    Something else to note...

    If you use iTunes you can wirelessly sync with TuneSync (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.highwindsoftware.tunesync&feature=search_result)

    I use DoubleTwist which automatically syncs with my iTunes playlists and I have AirTwist which wirelessly sync's my playlists. However this does not work perfectly with my Incredible, used to work perfectly with my DroidX, I think it messes up with the dual SD cards in th Inc. Not sure.
     
  6. findwaldo

    findwaldo Newbie

    Be aware that the stock music player doesn't properly reads tags from wma files...
     
  7. AndroidRider

    AndroidRider Well-Known Member

    The Inc doesn't have dual sd cards....
     
  8. Stupifier

    Stupifier Android Enthusiast

    If you have a large music library or want access to ALOT of music on your DINC, get Audiogalaxy....its free

    You can use this app to stream your ENTIRE music collection from your home PC to your DINC. As long as you keep your computer on at home, any music can be streamed to your phone...and the quality is really good. Once I started using Audiogalaxy, I stopped putting music directly onto my phone. It just seemed too cumbersome.
     
  9. Penguissimo

    Penguissimo Android Enthusiast

    Just a heads-up—if you have wired headphones/earbuds of any quality, you'll probably be disappointed in the sound quality of the Inc. For whatever reason, HTC used a lousy DAC in the Inc, and audio played through the headphone jack is pretty grainy and downsampled.

    If you use Bluetooth headphones, or crappy wired headphones, or are mostly playing low-quality MP3 files, it probably won't be a big problem, but you should be aware of this in case you were expecting a hi-fi experience.
     
  10. offanairplane

    offanairplane Android Enthusiast

     
  11. BlankDEP

    BlankDEP Member

    I'm going to second who ever mentioned Audiogalaxy.

    I have about 30 gigs of music on my computer and I have access to all of it on my DINC without using any storage space on the phone.

    I use it pretty often, never use my iPod anymore, and haven't noticed much of a hit to battery life.

    It's definitely good to look into if you have your computer turned on and connected to the internet all the time.
     
  12. cipher6

    cipher6 Android Enthusiast

    I do the same thing, but use subsonic. I've got access to my 100GB+ of music, anywhere. I use it to stream a lot at work and in the car, using bluetooth, and it sounds and works great.
     
  13. Penguissimo

    Penguissimo Android Enthusiast

    If you're already using the Inc and don't mind the sound, then there's nothing to worry about :)
     
  14. jmar

    jmar Nexican

    So songs that I've purchased on iTunes don't show up on my Dinc? What's up with that?
     
  15. Stupifier

    Stupifier Android Enthusiast

    @jmartino5920
    Some MP3 players have difficulty playing files that have some sort of protection on them (iTunes still use DRM?)....anyway, if I remember right, Poweramp is capable of playing iTunes stuff...don't quote me on that though.
     
  16. Jman42028

    Jman42028 Well-Known Member

    I've used my incredible as an MP3 player since the day I bought it. I wasn't too crazy about the stock player, but I didn't give it much of a chance honestly. I tried winamp, which I used on my PC for quite a while, but wasn't super happy with it. A few FC's and the playback thru blutooth wasn't the greatest. However, I downloaded Mixzing (just the free version) and I love it. Great program, and I think with the newest update that added a file browser if thats your sort of thing. The randomizer works great on it, and the bluetooth quality is excellent as well. Overall, you will probably never need another MP3 player as long as you have the incredible.
     
  17. offanairplane

    offanairplane Android Enthusiast

    In any case there is nothing to worry about. I think you are mistaken, and I would like some proof of your claim, otherwise you are misleading the OP. The audio output from the Dinc is not sub-par in any way.
     
  18. slabyk

    slabyk Lurker

    PowerAmp..

    I think its like $5 on the market with a 2 week free trial.. best app I purchased.

    I use my Inc for music constantly and poweramp has a built in eq.. music sounds much better.

    Also +1 audiogalaxy.
     
  19. AndroidRider

    AndroidRider Well-Known Member

    This exactly, poweramp was definitely the best app purchase I ever made.
     
  20. Penguissimo

    Penguissimo Android Enthusiast

    Uh, what kind of proof are you looking for? Should I put a mic up to my earbuds and post the recording? :thinking: The Inc's low-quality DAC is pretty common knowledge as far as I'm aware, to the point that I've seen a number of discussions that take it for granted. (Incidentally, the consensus seems to be that the Galaxy S1 series has the highest-quality DACs in Android phones right now, but the stock drivers are garbage; apparently people have had good results by rooting and installing custom drivers.)

    This guy did some tests and came to basically the same conclusion I did (i.e. the Inc's audio isn't great, but more than passable if you're not super picky):

    http://androidforums.com/htc-incred...cientific-look-incredibles-audio-quality.html

    Like I said, this isn't a huge issue, especially if it's not something you (or the OP) haven't already noticed. I work as a recording engineer, and I've done my (informal) tests on the Inc with relatively decent low-impedance earbuds (Etymotic ER-6is), and the noise and downsampling are really obvious to my ear. I'm sure that with higher-impedance earbuds, lower-bitrate files, and an untrained ear*, it's not a problem, and I said exactly as much.

    Sorry if I offended you, I guess? :thinking:

    * Not meant in a negative way, just to point out that this sort of thing might not be as noticeable if you're not the type of person who spends a lot of time specifically listening for this sort of thing.
     
  21. offanairplane

    offanairplane Android Enthusiast

    No, but some links to some common threads about this would be nice. I've been researching the Dinc long before I bought one, and I never saw anything about poor audio fidelity via the headphone jack. Your post in this thread is the first I've heard of it.

    I have done my share of amateur sound production as well. I have used Sonar along with MOTU interfaces, to record bands and even my own music. I am in fact pretty picky about sound quality. And like I said in the previous thread, I have a perfectly good iPod fifth generation 80GB at my house, and using the same mp3's I can't tell a difference in sound. If I thought that the iPod sounded even a little better, I'd be using it instead of the Dinc. And I'm not comparing them using earbuds. I have tried it plugged into my car stereo, my home theater system, my studio monitors, my keyboard amplifier, my church's P/A system, etc. I didn't do all of that for the purpose of comparing them, but I have done it none the less, and if there had been a major difference I would've noticed it.

    I'm not offended. I just disagree with you.
    And I am fairly qualified to make an asessment of this nature.

    My main concern is that the OP will get a false idea from your post that the Dinc is somehow inferior as an MP3 player, and in my daily use of it in that capacity has shown me that it is an excellent MP3 player, and I am comparing it to the allmighty iPod, which is the gold-standard of mp3 players. It's no slouch. It's as good as anything else on the market. If you have to use a Spectral analyzer to tell the difference between the Dinc and a Nexus1 let's say, that is a technical difference, not a percievable difference, so it doesn't matter, and it certainly is no reason to not use the Dinc as your main Mp3 player. That is like saying, the Camaro has 350 horsepower, but the Mustang has 350.001. That Camaro is a piece of crap, I'm going with the Mustang. Only a machine could even discern such a small difference, no human could ever tell the difference. And I think most people who complain about the Dinc's sound, do so only after reading somewhere that it's inferior, so they are not listening objectively.


    The waveform that he posted here shows the Dinc tracking nicely with the source mp3 file. The only place it degrades is above and beyond it's rated frequency response anyway. Then he goes on to say it just sounds different anyway, but he can't explain it. He says it almost sounds like there is some compression on the lower frequencies. But if that were true, the comparison would've shown it. And it didn't. His "somewhat scientific look" pretty much said (aside from the slight delay) the Dinc's DAC's are pretty much dead-on accurate.

    He goes on to say this "Will it ever integrate into my live rig as a sample player? Probably not."
    But I doubt he would use an iPod for such an application either. I would imagine he would use something like this.
    Denon DN-F650R | Sweetwater.com

    Or here is what I used to use.
    TASCAM MD-CD1mkIII | Sweetwater.com



    No MP3 player is going to be perfect. But he didn't compare the Dinc to any other players, only to the source file. I wonder how it would've compared to the iPod if he'd done the same test on the iPod.
     
  22. Perch_44

    Perch_44 Newbie

    works fine as an mp3 player. just wish it was louder.... :mad: with earbuds, i still find myself having to turn it almost all the way up... and no, my hearing is not gone.
     
  23. offanairplane

    offanairplane Android Enthusiast

    I agree with that. But then my last few phones I've had the same complaint about.
     
  24. Stupifier

    Stupifier Android Enthusiast

    For those wanting their music from their Dinc to be louder....this is ANOTHER reason to get Poweramp. It as a Pre-Amp function to volume boost your music a great deal. I had always wanted more volume and Poweramp was the answer.
     
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  25. txrxio

    txrxio Well-Known Member

    Is there an app that will pause when I press a button, such as the camera button or volume? Gets annoying having to unlock my phone just to pause it when someone needs to speak to me.
     

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